Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of Kenneth Branagh's THOR? Verily?

It fits with that era too -- Feige and company got to the first Avengers over four years' time and each new film (Iron Man 2 aside) was a chance to experiment with a different style just a bit. The blessing/curse of the first Avengers wasn't just that it made sure the gamble really did pay off, it kinda forced a new 'house tone' that's only now starting to loosen up more -- Guardians helped in that regard but it's only playing out more now with the last few films.

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I only saw it one time, as with I think all these Marvel movies, but I thought the second Thor movie was pretty good, and pretty funny.

one thing i want to add is that over the end credits there's the most terrible generic alt-rock song and i had to find out who performed it so I could hate them, and it was the Foo Fighters. They are really that bad.

Since it doesn't have its own thread, I want to also say I mostly liked the 2008 Hulk film, a solid 6/10 movie with a nice amount of pacing and a very wise decision to begin the film in medias res (probably because we'd already had Ang Lee/Eric Bana Hulk a few years before.) The stakes were extremely low and I can't decide whether or not it was a good narrative decision. Not much happened in the film and I'd have bought the Tim Roth role more if he wasn't just a random amoral black-ops soldier type. That said, I liked him.

I couldn't stop looking at William Hurt's mustache though, I think it was stolen from the set of Gettysburg.

been watching these movies since i liked wandavision and loki

this one was dire

It's pretty dull. They hadn't quite figured everything out yet, with Thor himself the biggest oversight. The Dark World might not be anyone's fave, but at least he'd moved beyond Space Tarzan.

Ragnarok is top two marvel efforts tho

Exactly. If it took Thor one to get to Thor 3, it was all worth it. There are definitely sequels better than the original, but how often is the third one significantly better than both of them?

Besides Godfather 3 and Jaws 3, of course.

Significantly is prob tbh underselling it!

First two Thors are the only og core Avengers solo flix I don't rate very highly (I even prefer Iron Man 2, and yes I know that everyone thinks I'm an idiot on that count and likely many other counts).

Iron Man 2 suuuuuuucks. It might be the only MCU movie that is outright bad, imo. Looks bad, written bad, over stuffed and under stuffed.

xpost Well, like, a lot of people like Toy Story 3 a lot and think it's the best. I personally don't, but even so, no sane person that would call it significantly better than Toy Story 3. So Thor 3 is not just better, it's *significantly*, dramatically better than the other two.

(And yes, I even rate Norton Hulk higher, bring it bruh.)

Obviously the presence of Hemsworth and Hiddleston elevates the material considerably but they're pretty saggy affairs otherwise.

Iron man 2 is certainly better than thor 1

Iron man 2 may be better than the two endgames and black panther tbh

Oof. When my kid and I rewatched them all over the last year Iron Man 2 was the only one we kind of looked at each other after and agreed, well, that was pretty shitty. I want to say I liked Thor more the second time. And Dark World remained fine to me.

Dr strange woeful

Anyways, thor 1 no good, back on topic

Dr. Strange, like Thor, often felt like it had just a couple of sets and tried to make those two sets look like lots of sets, but I wasn't fooled.

Didn’t like Thor 1 the first time I watched it but it really grew on me after the second viewing - it’s kinda lovably goofy. And I’ve said it before but so glad they cast Chris and not Liam Hemsworth as Thor.

Thor 2 is forgettable, Iron Man 2 is outright bad - those two, along with Dr Strange and Avengers: Age of Ultron, are solidly bottom tier MCU.

I feel like this is a fair compromise position from which to bring in the endgames and black panther and i look fwd to the next round of talks

i've only seen the first four, to which i say

iron man 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> iron man 2 > hulk >>>>>>>>>>>> thor 1

probably only because of downey tho. and paltrow is the best of the ladies so far

idris elba is the only good part of thor (although hemsworth is indeed quite a physical specimen)

I don't even remember the baddy in Iron Man 2. I know it's sometimes Mickey Rourke, but other than him, there's some other shit going on that I just totally blank on. Which is crazy for a film with soooooo much going on (literally; the movie otherwise has nothing going on).

Mockey rourke and sam rockwell put it well out of the mire tbh

Now that's as entertainment, if there are metrics under which those guys' performances actually bring what is held to be a decent movie down then they are imo nonsense metrics because nothing in that movie besides is worth a look

I believe tombot had views as to the pinpoint accuracy of Sam Rockwell's performance as an non-military contractor pitching for military contracts. I don't have any views on that, I don't have access to that metric and I don't feel that I should have. It might be "a good civil servant's film" is what I'm saying.

Dr. Strange, like Thor, often felt like it had just a couple of sets and tried to make those two sets look like lots of sets, but I wasn't fooled.

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this always stuck out to me about thor 1, the scenes that took place on earth looked incredibly cheap. like they were filmed on a theme park wild west shootout show set

Thor 1 was great

I love the first Thor. To me it is a very well-working mix between sword-and-sorcery fantasy & contemporary MCU real-world stuff. I find Loki done particularly well, I also think the Warriors Three and Lady Sif are nicely distinguished enriching extras.

I remember hoping to love the second Thor as much but coming out of the cinema quite disappointed. However, when I rewatched it later, I enjoyed it immensely.

I personally don't think any of the MCU movies has been below average-to-good. My least favourite has always been Iron Man II as well, but I thought it was enjoyable enough. It has been a while since the last time I watched it, I wonder if I like it better now as with The Dark World.

I personally don't think any of the MCU movies has been below average-to-good.

Thor 2 had the business with the portals at the end, which was quite fun for an MCU boss battle

otherwise pretty worthless iirc

Except that Thor himself is more fun, too, and Darcy is a funny character as well.

ragnarok used hemsworth so perfectly that it made you wonder why it took so long for the creative team to realize that thor should be a total goofball. ragnarok and infinity war did a good job of indulging in that side of him while also remembering why he's a noble hammer-wielding hero. endgame went a little too far in the goofy direction, imo, tho who wouldn't want to sit around and play video games all day with korg.