Qveen Herby / FKA Karmin

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incorrect to characterize the popularity of trap/r&b in the late '10s as a "boom" in the traditional sense imo

strong argument to be made that the charts did not accurately reflect the true popularity of that music throughout 2008-2015 because radio willfully stonewalled black artists and distribution of the genres' most vital work occurred via channels that did not or could not report engagement in a way that soundscan could effectively measure

late '10s explosion in the popularity of this music dovetails precisely with the popularity of streaming services - as spotify's subscriber base increased so too did the chart performance of music that had previously suffered from a lack of mainstream radio support, to the point where radio was eventually forced to follow the leader

queen herby rebrand not a death knell but an acknowledgement of this music as the most vital and influential force in american pop music and of how difficult it is to imagine that changing anytime soon if you look at the numbers

existence of passionate fan base is perplexing but seems impossible to deny that post-rebrand queen herby music is objectively much better than pre-rebrand karmin music and that must just matter more to the target audience (presumably many of the same people who keep checking for new music from bhad bhabie, iggy azalea, and brooke candy) than previous generations' hoary old questions about authenticity

james brooks, Sunday, 6 May 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

What I found suspicious was the comments sections on her videos all being virtually dissent-free lovefests. But I just looked at some Iggy Azalea and Bhad Bhabie YouTube comment sections and they were the same way, so maybe that's just how it is sometimes. Or maybe the conspiracy goes deeper than I thought...

JRN, Sunday, 6 May 2018 06:28 (five years ago) link

i first heard of this rebrand when reading a widely-rt'd twitter thread sharing video clips of 'female rappers you should know about' or something. the tweet with her said something along the lines of "yeah it's the girl from karmin but i swear she deserves another look"

dyl, Sunday, 6 May 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

yeah i mean i came across it by accident months ago and laughed so hard i fell off the couch when i realized who it was

that's me though, i'm old

the fact that there does seem to be a fan base for this stuff is fascinating, though.

streaming playlists and radio formats seem pretty inhospitable to female vocalists in general right now but especially to female brands, artists still trying to do the 2008-2015 gaga/katy/kesha thing by releasing music that exalts artifice and is self-referential and reliant on a larger-than-life persona to make an impact

maybe there's a lane for herby/bhabie/iggy to succeed as niche projects catering directly to fans of trashy, culturally insensitive pop projects fronted by white women from that era who refuse to follow the mainstream and move on to listening to post malone and ed sherman

or maybe it's just a hangover, artists and an audience that are completely in denial about which way the wind is blowing that will all scatter like ashes on the breeze once they fully process the reality of how little money remains to be made from music like this

who knows

james brooks, Sunday, 6 May 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

One of the youtube comments today on a "Teens React to..." video at FBE was "React to Qveen Herby!"

So I replied "Dumb blackface bullshit, how's that for a reaction?"

Angry response pending.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 6 May 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeFE0Gl3ZrM

maura, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

"I swipe my black card at/ the Balenciaga store"

sure. sure

maura, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link

I'm so relieved that isn't a video.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link


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