A Thread For Starting Pitchers That Are Doing Really Well

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also first combined no-hitter by the Dodgers

a combo is a purer kind of no-hitter, since they're always dependent on the defense and not one pitcher

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

seems just as likely that they could be dependant on several pitchers and not the defense at all

na (NA), Saturday, 5 May 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link

put in a waiver claim for Newcomb over Ross in my $ league.
FIP and peripherals look great on both, just came down on age/team quality.

campreverb, Saturday, 5 May 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

obviously having NO hits in a game is HUGELY dependent on how the defense is positioned 98% of the time, but never change NA

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 May 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link

Fact: for a true “pitcher’s” no hitter to occur, all the fielders must be bunched up in right field. This has only happened once, in 1906 and lasted 12 innings.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 6 May 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link

to morbs: yes I understand that and agree, but am just confused why that would be more the case in a combined no-hitter than a solo no-hitter

na (NA), Sunday, 6 May 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link

"a purer kind of no-hitter"

I'm not sure if this means more or less luck-dependent.

To me, a combined no-hitter would involve more luck. Luck is part of any no-hitter--a great play or three, help from the umpires somewhere. But starting pitchers who pitch no-hitters almost uniformly have great stuff that day. The luck is the difference between the no-hitter that gets the headline and the two-hitter that's forgotten.

With multiple pitchers, though, the odds of throwing out three or four guys in a row who all have great stuff seems less likely. One or two of the one-inning contributors might have been perfectly average; getting though an inning without giving up a hit doesn't seem particularly noteworthy.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 May 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

Yankees working on a combined one in the 7th, scoreless game

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 May 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

paxton thru 7

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link

hot take: no-hitters are really fun.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:06 (five years ago) link

Paxton is a monster.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link

Awesome stuff!

(Martinez can't call a game jfc)

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link

seemed to get a good ovation from the Toronto fans

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link

baseball custom dictates that during a no-hitter no one talks to the pitcher because he is trying to make a team game too much about himself

— Jeff Sullivan (@based_ball) May 9, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 05:24 (five years ago) link

I'm so depressed right now nothing worse than getting swept in a 4 game series on top of all that setting a franchise strikeout record

Bee OK, Friday, 11 May 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link

Haha wrong thread

Bee OK, Friday, 11 May 2018 05:56 (five years ago) link

jordan lyles (?) is perfect (?) through seven

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

not anymore

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

wacha through eight

mookieproof, Sunday, 3 June 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

when i come home at midnight to a post like that, i expect closure.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2018 04:08 (five years ago) link

60% chance, according to a recent fangraphs article

k3vin k., Monday, 4 June 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link

vince velasquez is through six, with way too many pitches

do your stuff, gabe

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

LUCAS GIOLITO IS THROUGH FIVE lol

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

daniel poncedeleon, making his debut 15 months after having emergency brain surgery after getting drilled in the head in AAA, and possessing a great name, through 6

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link

Way to go, BUD.

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:49 (five years ago) link

things just haven't been the same ever since Matheny got fired and they took away Bud's clubhouse hazing enforcement credentials

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link

2018 MLB possibly peaked just now.

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 02:04 (five years ago) link

as a follower of the cardinal way, i will take a knee at the top of the mountaintop and worship christ until the sun comes up again

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 02:06 (five years ago) link

is emergency brain surgery gonna be the next Moneyball thing? god damn

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link

one reason i'm glad i don't talk to living people in real life (i do consort with the dead) is that i don't have to hear dipshits complain about how poncedeleon was removed from the game after 7 hitless innings (and 116 pitches)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 02:33 (five years ago) link

poor jim edmonds, the rotating color commentator for the game, who had to tell play-by-play doof dan mclaughlin maybe 10 times that it was the right move to take him out of the game

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

i mean ok i guess there are dimensions where poncedeleon works 5-pitch innings in the 8th and 9th and gets gatorade dumped on him after throwing a 126 pitch no-hitter. but in the larger scheme of things, it's his debut, it's a mid-july game for two teams that aren't making the playoffs

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link

wait his last name is Ponce de Leon? badass

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 02:44 (five years ago) link

the amount of mythic horseshit surrounding no-hitters has some ppl thinking it's worth endangering a career that's just started

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 03:01 (five years ago) link

If it's endangering a career, then yeah, but is it always? Pitchers throw a lot! Maybe there are occasions where they can just take fewer long tosses in the outfield the next day or something. (Not saying this was such an occasion - 116 pitches after seven innings is an awful lot and he's a kid.)

No hitters are awesome.

timellison, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 04:28 (five years ago) link

Austin Gomber (!) of the Cards thru 6

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link

reasonable # pitches too

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

making his starting debut, no less, the day after Poncedeleon took a no-hitter through 7 in HIS starting debut. I have no idea how to look something like this up but I can't imagine that's ever happened before

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link

lol, the fire alarms, flashing sirens and lights, are going off throughout great american ballpark

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

welp, someone is getting fired

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link

looooooooool

where is your god now, people who believed in god

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link

The Braves pitcher is two outs away.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

(And under 100 pitches.)

clemenza, Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

Damn--two outs, 2-2 count, Chris Taylor singles.

It was Sean Newcomb, by the way.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

I was, um, a little off on the pitch count (that was his Game Score)--he was over 130 pitches.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link

aaaand Newcomb has teenage tweets

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The Jays guy, Pannone, through 6. It's his first major league start! He's thrown 86 pitches, though, so probably won't be out for the 7th. (The Orioles starter, meanwhile, has only given up one hit.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

never mind

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

The best way to break up a no-hitter is to post here.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

López of the KC Royals perfect through 6 2/3.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 9 September 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link


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