WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

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having recently wrapped up ozark was stoked to see peter mullan turn up as james delos. hope he gets to talk some more in future eps.

andrew m., Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link

oh god are all the parks variations on europeans colonizing shit

mh, Monday, 7 May 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link

Well having a park dedicated to aboriginal cultures overthrowing white colonizers would kinda break the theme of the fucking show, so yes

El Tomboto, Monday, 7 May 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

I have so many problems with this stupid episode rn

El Tomboto, Monday, 7 May 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

I can’t even with the final battle shit where they set up all these perimeter explosives but still somehow let Dad Abernathy get hostnapped by Tessa Thompson who inexplicably rode off on a horse ex machina 45 minutes earlier.

And I know why Dolores cares about her “dad” post-sentience, obviously Ford put that shit in there to get her to protect some extra level of maze shit from Delos LLC, but GAAAAAHHH

So dumb. This episode was like Walking Dead levels of dumb.

El Tomboto, Monday, 7 May 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link

Folks, I think I'm out...

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 7 May 2018 08:00 (five years ago) link

i pledged to not talk shit and i bowed out after last season, but...
my partner is watching the latest episode right now and when did it turn into a big constant stupid action movie? reminds me of that part in monty python and the holy grail where the big medieval battle gets interrupted by the London police

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

I just watch this show to see Thandie Newton kill people

akm, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

akm otm

mh, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link

Knowing that there is a British Raj park leads me to believe there is ABSOLUTELY an antebellum US park where guests can be slavemasters. The demand for such a place among Americans would be insatiable.

Raga version of "Seven Nation Army" = megalolz

Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

ok only halfway through, but the guest who escaped from the other park running from a tiger is totally William’s daughter, right

mh, Monday, 14 May 2018 02:05 (five years ago) link

Yes

This episode was pretty great imo

El Tomboto, Monday, 14 May 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link

we’re going to find out that Bernard has an Arnold layer, at least the skills, below his surface programming, I think

was so hyped to see Elsie back

sounds like the long term investor pitch was maybe immortality, but I suspect it got pivoted to abducting guests and inserting their doubles back into the real world at some point

possibly for AI training a bunch of guests were actually host androids who were dupes of guests, hence the tremor problems

mh, Monday, 14 May 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link

this is finally good again

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 May 2018 06:23 (five years ago) link

"You wanted me to play your game, and I'm gonna play it to the bone" was very bad, though.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 May 2018 06:33 (five years ago) link

i think ford had clementine bring me here for a reason

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link

you've got to admit that hiding your secret transhuman tech lab in the middle of a rich people's vacation resort that you own and operate is a pretty Bond Villain move

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link

"You wanted me to play your game, and I'm gonna play it to the bone"

i'm stealing this for everyday use.

I'm gonna edit this column to the bone!

andrew m., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

You wanted me to convert simple HTML to BBcode, and I'm gonna convert it to the bone

andrew m., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

Finding out that a character that Bernard was heavily implied to have murdered was actually just imprisoned in a cave with a bucket and some protein bars was a bit of an eye-roller.

Dan I., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

Plus the Elsie character seems dropped in from some other, lesser, show. SyFy original Mary Sue

Dan I., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link

Hrm. I think Elsie is fun and I'm glad to see her.

I don't remember when/how she found out BernardBot was a bot.

it's a leaf that the nomads chew (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

She just found out in the most recent episode! So even as he was manhandling her into a cave she didn't suspect?

Dan I., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

Elsie's awesome and shannon woodward is adorable fuiud

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

elsie a bot

andrew m., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

NOOOOOOOOOOO

it's a leaf that the nomads chew (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

I just assumed BernBot was programmed at some point not to kill her, for whatever purposes.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

I had to listen to a guy mansplain this show to a woman at a camping trip this weekend and it was fucking painful. I just kept my mouth shut.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

Ford spared Elsie because while she knew too much, she wouldn't be able to stop him, and he didn't hate her guts the way he apparently did Theresa. And also you can't kill your audience surrogate?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

The song Madame Akane danced to was a little OTT.

incel clown posse (naus), Monday, 21 May 2018 03:09 (five years ago) link

what was that a cover of?

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link

https://youtu.be/__DEAK3AinM

incel clown posse (naus), Monday, 21 May 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link

oh jfc I feel so dumb

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link

OK so I stuck around for Shogun World and managed to disappoint myself because the show will never 100% become Bene Gesserit Maeve and the Seven Samurai.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 21 May 2018 05:54 (five years ago) link

near the beginning of the ep, when the bald security dude is back at HQ he looks down at a body - is that elsie? with chopped-off hair, holding a big knife?

just1n3, Monday, 21 May 2018 06:15 (five years ago) link

I don't know who that was but none of the recappers have picked up on it. Again, my money is on them not killing off the audience surrogate(s). Teddy is always never not doomed, but Felix and Elsie and Stubbs are our people.

Eve Batey @ previosuly.tv has the best hypothesis for how Maeve's jedi powers work.

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

also the link she includes to the page about the actual bluetongue virus (http://www.thecattlesite.com/diseaseinfo/245/bluetongue-btv/) validates that Teddy's suggestion was the right one all along and pops abernathy is just a sadist / firebug

Control Strategy

The strategy is to contain the outbreak and minimise trade impact by:

  • -*using a combination of quarantine and movement controls to prevent spread
  • -*treatments and husbandry procedures to control vectors, reduce transmission and protect susceptible animals
  • -*tracing and surveillance to determine the extent of virus and vector distribution
  • -*zoning to define infected and disease-free areas.
There is no justification for stamping out but some animals may need to be destroyed for welfare reasons. It is not possible to eradicate the bluetongue vectors.

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

shogun wolrd is 1000x better than westworld

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

in other words, elvis telecom otm

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Monday, 21 May 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

the host-to-host network was pretty obviously the thing Maeve is using because she's a host communicating with/controlling other hosts?

also I have no idea why a virus that was 90% backstory and not infecting real animals needs delving into. it's a metaphor about killing the weak before they get sick and infect the strong. teddy's gotta get strong real fast or he's heading to the dustbin of history

shogun world having a lot of stories photocopied from westworld was a nice reverse on seven samurai/magnificent seven

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

teddy's gotta get strong real fast or he's heading to the dustbin of history

And he winds up that way anyway! Dolores’ idea of strength is completely sociopathic.

El Tomboto, Monday, 21 May 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

nah, he's still weak

she's talking about unrepentant killing any host she thinks won't be of use in battle, and Teddy's letting people go

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link

she might be sociopathic but she has a damn ethos

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Monday, 21 May 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link

I think Teddy's still just tryna find ways of advocating that the two of them just go off and do cuddly homesteadin' while Westworld burns

The floor is larva (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link

this show is so shapeless and boring. they have no idea where they're going or why, do they

goole, Monday, 21 May 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

they have no idea where they're going or why, do they

I have the opposite fear: that they DO know where they're going. They have it all mapped out. It will take years to get there. And it'll turn out to be some mind-gnawingly boring and/or nonsensical bullshit. Basically the Lost model.

The floor is larva (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

If they were really just making it up as they went along, that would at least allow for the possibility of something fun and/or interesting happening by sheer accident.

The floor is larva (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 May 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

aren't they going ... west

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 May 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

the idea that there are a bunch of robots who are now aware of their state, but still only have the narrow language and characterological reactions of their stereotypical programming to apprehend it, is really interesting! the show seems only barely aware that's what it's about or something.

goole, Monday, 21 May 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link


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