Buffalo Boxed Again: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/buffalo-springfield-whats-that-sound-box/
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 07:51 (six years ago) link
Pretty sure that they disowned the debut because of having no control over recording quality, later (at least some of 'em) therefore considering remastering hopeless? CD I heard did seem fairly harsh, but dunno how would have compared w my long-gone original LP (which I considered good waaay back there, though had a dinky record player so who knows). Having stereo and mono may help. Would rather get this Rhino box first, with all the previously unreleased demos, incl. a number of titles I've never heard of (although it doesn't incl final album)https://www.discogs.com/Buffalo-Springfield-Box-Set/release/2434262
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
That set has most of the final album. It was kind of a dry run for Neil's archives re: compiling quirks (chronological tracklist, curious omissions, alt. takes/mixes in lieu of O.G. versions etc.).
However, if--like me--you had the first box and a copy of Last Time Around, you're good. Seems like the main attraction of the new box is the mono ...Again, which (I think) hasn't been out on CD before, and the upgraded remastering--however the prior remasters sound fine and the debut was never going to sound <amazing> due to flaws in the original production.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link
Just googled Ken Viola (writer of of the liners to the first Springfield box, and a much quoted source in Shakey) and found this recent interview , which includes this nugget:
I found out from a collector about a song by Neil Young I had never heard of, “High School Graduation” (which turned out to be a song from his unrecorded first solo album post Buffalo Springfield, about the complexities of feelings & experiences in high school). I obtained the lead sheet from the publisher, and Kevin & I arranged the track. We recorded with Garry Tallent and Vini Lopez. This featured a brilliant duel lead feedback Springfield homage by guitarist Joel Gramolini, and a climatic sax solo. With help from the great concert promoter John Scher (I worked for him many years both part & full time), through Elliot Roberts (I had met him & Neil many times over the years), Neil approved our recording. As far as I know, I am the only one to have released a Neil Young song he has not.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link
Hard to beat Bluebird extended
― calstars, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link
his unrecorded first solo album post Buffalo Springfield
WANT
― sleeve, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link
Glad for Viola & friends; intrepid effort, would like to hear. There were some other covers of then- unreleased Springfield etc. demos, at least one this one album, which I scribbled about on Rolling Country 2008 and Can We Talk About Early West Coast Country Rock etc:Just got through my first listen to reissue of Yellow Hand's s/t from 1970.They do a bunch of Stills and Young songs from a Buffalo Springfield album that never did come out, it sez here (so they're on the bootleg of Stampede?) I think Neil did release a later version of "Down To The Wire." That's the Yellow Hand track where the four-part close harmonies kinda crowd me, plus they sound particularly in there between the Grassroots and Three Dog Night, just this combination of by-the-numbers and overemphasis. But, if you've got any tolerance for Stills early solo and Manassas stuff, this is mostly like that (still chunky harmonies, but with a touch of plaintiveness/querulousness to balance the manliness, and allowing the lyrics to come through just enough, so [modicum of]personality is okay simulated, while dumb complaints and inspiration are not heard too clearly)(also get Neil's sufficiently stylish, punky bitchy folk-rock putdowns on "Sell Out)." And Delaney Bramblett/Mac Davis "God Knows I Love You," which coulda maybe shoulda been a hit for somebody. Also, the lead singer, Jerry Tawney, steps up front on some okay self-writs, and "My World Needs You" would be good for Gary Puckett. Yellow Hand's drummer keeps rushing and then almost stumbling over the beat, and mostly they do seem more singers than players, but overall seems okay.That was a promo from forcedexposure.com, which doesn't have it in stock now, but guess it's around somewhere. All of the originals might be on the xpost Rhino Springfield box, come to think of it----oh yeah here's the covers I heard duh:https://www.discogs.com/Yellow-Hand-Yellow-Hand/release/2933099
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
And they get some points for giving it a legit (if generally little-known) try in 1970, 31 years before the Rhino box.
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
Would be good to get some of the live stuff in good quality. Though not sure it would be taht much better than what has been circulated.But a 12 minute version of Bluebird with an extensive guitar duel is pretty essential. & other stuff is pretty worth hearing.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link
Beg to disagree about the 9-minute 'Bluebird'. Haven't heard it for a while, but one of the more… shall we say, 'noodly' of the Stills/Young guitar duels as I recall. Hard to beat the great banjo/guitar coda on the 'Again' version which it replaces. Might be nice to have it on CD for the first time though, I guess for completists.
― Bloody Snail, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link
Anytime I hear someone rave about the long "Bluebird", I think either (A)They must have it confused w/the James Gang version, or (B) they must really be into listening to Stills grunt.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link
haha, yeah Stills vocalizing on the long Bluebird is not great.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
I've heard several long "Bluebirds" here and there online, over the years: some are even good. Listening to xpost Poco's 1969 debut here: several jangly brisk ones, kind of proto-power pop, and especially like the instrumental "Grand Junction," ballads have the lingering notes that were kind of a Springfield & subsequent config troubadour trademark---more warbly via Neil, more almost-ponderous courtesy Stills (at times), and every track so far benefits from expert detailing to some extent---but several I wouldn't miss atall on A Great Lost Buffalo-type mixtape, which is where I keep wanting the best ones here to be, as every third or fourth or fifth choice in such a mix. Oh well, glad I checked, will prob go on to the s/t one of these days---rat now I'm gonna see if Spotify also has the Rhino box (even if it's OOP, cos they have some of those)(ho, Spotify's slipping in the later Poco track, "Neil Young is not my brother...he's rich as Donald Trump")
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link
"You won't find me on his Facebook page..."
This is better than the original Poco, possibly because it's NY-based pastiche pisstake
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link
they must really be into listening to Stills grunt.
OTM and LOL. Mr. Stills is certainly feeling that extended Bluebird jam.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link
They do have the Rhino box, got the brand new one too.
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link
Neil didn't tell Stephen about the new box: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/stephen-stills-new-buffalo-springfield-box/
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 June 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link
Pro Tools has a thing in it where you can feed the record into it and slow it down without changing the record a bit, plus it does really wonderful things to the bass. I hope they employed that
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― brimstead, Friday, 1 June 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link
Finally occurred to me to check Albums That Never Were, and sure enough, he's got his own Stampede, and as always he tells you exactly why he did it his way, while acknowledging that there are others (discogs has a 20-tracker from Italy, with a number of titles I've never seen before, studio and live from Whittier High etc). But here's this, incl. several tracks that ended up on Again, plausible back story, and links (from 2016) that don't work for me, but I'll look a little further:http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2016/07/buffalo-springfield-stampede.html
― dow, Friday, 1 June 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain)
the one from bonnaroo 2011 is v. nice
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 1 June 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link
xp wow that is a convoluted story, amazing. I don't think the Shakey book goes into that much detail.
― sleeve, Friday, 1 June 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link
Anytime I hear someone rave about the long "Bluebird", I think .... they must really be into listening to Stills grunt.
I believe this is my single favorite ILM post.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 21 December 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link
Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 21 December 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link
Youtube threw these at me today...the legendary private BS reunion in 1986.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWMGFnXHk44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IhUMy4aNnI
Stills w/the headless Steinberger!
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link
haha, when I interviewed Furay a little while back he still sounded dismayed by this reunion.
― tylerw, Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link
There's probably an alternate timeline where they kept going and actually made a reunion album that finishes off their careers for good.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:25 (five years ago) link
I watched that Jakob Dylan thing about Laurel Canyon on Netflix a few days ago. Never was familiar with Buffalo Springfield much outside of For What It's Worth and Mr. Soul, but MY GOD EXPECTING TO FLY I NEEDED THIS SONG IN MY LIFE
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 November 2019 04:36 (four years ago) link
oh hell yeah
you know "Out Of My Mind" yeah? and "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing"?
― Book Doula (sleeve), Thursday, 14 November 2019 04:40 (four years ago) link
I heard "On The Way Home" in the wild the other day, and--while I know the band was basically finished when it came out--it still astounds me that it wasn't a huge hit for them or a huge cover for someone else (somebody on Motown perhaps) at the time.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 November 2019 04:46 (four years ago) link
I'm learning them now. xp
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 November 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link
Another great Neil penned ballad from his time with Buffalo Springfield - Flying On The Ground Is Wong.
I prefer the Rainy Day cover with Kendra Smith singing.
https://youtu.be/fQDym5QZBX09
― that's not my post, Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:40 (four years ago) link
^^ yup that one too
― Book Doula (sleeve), Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link
Broken Arrow! Kind Woman! Out oF My Mind (esp the demo version from the box)!
― SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Thursday, 14 November 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link
A Child's Claim to Fame is a great country-rock tune. One of my favorite songs to sing along to.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link