I'm sorry, English is my first language I'm still learning how to speak Huge Dumbass
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), 1. maj 2018 20:20 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, this was definitely so cryptically written: The solution isn't to not criticizing that hiring, it's to diversify the editorial process.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:28 (six years ago) link
gotcha
xpost
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:28 (six years ago) link
I guess there is a grammar error in there, but still.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
i think it doesn't take that much to imagine that a bunch of clueless white editors could hire a WOC writer just to score woke points for the marketing team.
You really think the **marketing team** of the place that considers "millennial males" it's core gives a fuck about "woke points"? It would probably be MORE profitable if Pitchfork catered to the Very Online White Male and the many sponsors that don't want to deal with music that might have an f-word
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
I don't know that sponsors have any problems with Danes.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link
xp see: everyone on reddit
― lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link
You continue to misinterpret me after I've explained it like ten times. It's pretty hard not to think it's deliberate. No, I'm not saying that pitchfork only hired her because she is a black woman, I'm saying they've created the appearance that they've only hired her because she is a black woman. The disconnect between her text and their score makes it seem as if they don't trust her reviewing skills, MAKING IT SEEM that they only hired her because she is a black woman.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:15 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
could it be that this appearance is a cognitive distortion of your very own self
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link
Conde Nast, the company that owns Pitchfork, also owns Reddit, hub of racism communities, MRAs, paedos and creepshottters. The leap in logic to thinking Pitchfork would get a WOC to review anything because of "marketing" is more cynical than any reality
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:34 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It happens for TV series and advertising that care to sell stuff to the regular hipster, I don't think it's that much a stretch to think if Pitchfork were vile they could do that. But thank god I used the word 'could' to talk about a hypothetical, this way I'm certain no paid writer for a national magazine would ever confuse it with an actual factual statement.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
Plus, I did not mention pitchfork per se, but whatever Whiney, Whiney away.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
this desk has created the appearance that it is a pillow, which is why I keep hitting my head against it
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
I personally think Pitchfork should go back to catering to Gen Xers and our alt rock. That's real music, not this crappy synth stuff. Barf out!!!
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
also, generally in journalism, if someone is a cynical and poorly intentioned editor just looking to hire someone for "woke points" they generally will hire young and/or new writers for things like op-eds, not established writers for reviews of prestige albums
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link
VHS, why would I imagine you were talking about Pitchfork in the Pitchfork thread?
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), 1. maj 2018 20:34 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I know you're kidding, Whiney, but literally the only non-positive review on Metacritic, a mixed one from the Guardian, is by a white man complaining that the album is too commercial and impersonal. White men are really, really into seeming 'woke'. And yes, I notice the irony.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), 1. maj 2018 20:42 (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Holy fuck that you keep on doing this.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
White men are really, really into seeming 'woke'. And yes, I notice the irony.
why are you still posting
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link
lol
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:44 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if you had followed the conversation instead of trying to pwn people on a message board, etc
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link
I mean, in all honesty I'm not that surprised, I've seen you do this exact same thing before if someone criticizes pitchfork, katherine, but I honestly still didn't think you would sink so low.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
lmao what
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:43 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'll keep that in mind when I read reviews in the future.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link
Having to correct the exact same misreading 15 times, then the same idiot who can't/won't read making jokes about stuff being repeated. Christ almighty, I guess you should just be ignored, huh?
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link
Oh sweet, Rahawa writes for Pitchfork now? I liked the piece she wrote last year for Outside.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link
you are correct that I cannot read
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link
Rahawa is a marvelous writer and she wrote well about Monae. That's my contribution to this edifying thread.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link
appreciate rahawa linking to sasha geffen's bisexual lighting piece, which is really great itself
― lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
xp upbuilding discourse
― j., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link
sorry if I upset anyone, also, or if I said anything wrong
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link
i can tell you as a writer nothing is cooler than when everyone ignores the arguments you actually make in favor of debating the relationship between the score and the writer as if it even matters
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
Apology not accepted! You people toadilly ignored my Gen X audience suggestion for Pitchfork. How do you think that made me fee? Bad!
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
sorry
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
(specifically, I am sorry for "sinking so low"; I don't remember when I did that, or what I said wrong, but whatever it is, I apologize. this isn't bullshit. I don't know what to say to get across the fact that it isn't but it isn't)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link
this is like one step removed from people frothing at the mouth over BOTW getting an 8.8
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
What's BOTW? I Googled and then wished I hadn't (based on the Urban Dictionary entry that was excerpted in the first page of hits).
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link
zelda (breath of the wild - an undisputed masterpiece)
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link
haha, that came up too
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, May 1, 2018 1:20 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao...my mans in vintage form here
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link
i wish you womenfolk would just SHUT UP and listen to freddie b tell you he cares so much about women's voices in pop journalism
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link
Look, let me mansplain it to you people. These days the music is all made by computers. There's no feeling in it. Barf city!! Back in my day, the 90s, that was real music, made by people not machines.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link
btw - thanks to J0rdan et al. for explaining how the process works at Pfork (and elsewhere). As a reader, I guess I assumed (maybe naively) that the reviewer assigned the rating, maybe with some editorial "oversight" to make sure not every album is either a 6 or a 9, etc.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link
or a 6.9 -- nice
― geoffreyess, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
I've found Pitchfork no more score-centric when assigning reviews than other publications for whom scores matter. The subtleties of decimal points are lost on me, though.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link
Katherine’s quality in my book
― done and dusted (Ross), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
it just makes it look more authoritative
― brimstead, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
the decimal points
― brimstead, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
this is the computer age, you can't do any art justice with a paltry array of stars and half stars, that's medieval
― j., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link
thumbs. thumbs! monkeys could review with thumb gestures
― j., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link
certain combinations of digits are just really satisfying. 8.9, 3.5, 6.6.. ah man
― brimstead, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
― done and dusted (Ross), Tuesday, May 1, 2018 4:08 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Same.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link