EVERYONE's copying Autechre now haha
― imago, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link
not that keen on his electronic stuff but out of four hours theres surely something good nestled away in there. fucking hell, this guy is insanely prolific
― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link
Temple of Roon
twp lol
― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
it does say it was created 2002-2018 - this is clearly an ongoing project that's finally ready (like most of his stuff)
so far it isn't quite as gloriously fucked as Dialectics but it is pleasantly unsettling
― imago, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
I've never been into his electronic albums before but I'm actually really digging this five tracks in.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
It's fucking amazing is what it is, this. I've never heard a single ambient Jute Gyte track before in my life, didn't know he did this!
Between Autechre's NTS sessions and this: I do not for the life of me know why we deserve such beauty.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link
I made it to I think the second track before I heard some growling. Are my ears deceiving me? Because I know the dude's background, but I'm really not in the mood for growling these days.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link
I'm hearing little to no growling? Plunged in at the 5th track, 'The cave is empty', and that was me sorted. I did not know this man could deal in mournful bliss as well.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link
Do you mean "growling" as in extreme metal vocals? Because I don't remember any on the whole album but tbf there were times when I had it on the background while doing other things?
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link
Maybe it was just generally distressed vocals? I'm thinking of the start of "Another Pioneer," sort of Ligeti meets throat singing.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:55 (five years ago) link
I hear layered chopped up and processed voices there but not growling.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link
OK, moaning, then.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link
for me JG is often kinda like -- idk -- some of those doorstop authors you might have in your library who you know you'll probably enjoy when you get to 'em, but at the same time they're kind of a slog & eat up all yr time so you get to 'em less than you might. I have two albums, have listened to 'em some, but I very seldom say "you know what'd hit the spot right now is some Jute Gyte" - it's like doing critical theory, I enjoy the ride very occasionally. But fuck if this ambient one doesn't sound fantastic
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 11:33 (five years ago) link
"the cave is empty"
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link
Oviri now has a vinyl option on Bandcamp.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 8 October 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link
'birefringence' out july 1st. gird yourselves
― imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link
Hammershøi represent.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link
would love to attend an exhibition of the paintings he uses for covers
― imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link
I'd watch that, imagine if he'd get those all in one museum!
Stoked for the new album. Reading the wiki on 'birefringence' gave me a blank stare for about five minutes straight, I trust the album to make more sense.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link
would it make more sense if i told you birefringence or double refraction is a key concept in pynchon's 'against the day', which i basically made jute gyte read lol
― imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
So you're the culprit/philanthropist.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
we all need a little more dual-reality in our lives tbh
― imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
More of an infinite fractal reality man myself but yeah.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
ahaha... see, a Jute Gyte I can handle (unlike many). An Imago-infected Jute Gyte though? Sign me up!
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
announcing an album in advance....he's going corporate on us
― Simon H., Monday, 17 June 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link
fifth track of this is some kind of insane slowcore electro trap lullaby
― imago, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:09 (four years ago) link
Is this not on bandcamp?
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 July 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link
spotify, bandcamp will be up any minute now
can't get over The Foam That Flows From The Mouths Of Wild Boars, it's as tt said 'basically a Katie Dey song' but there's Low and whatnot in there too
― imago, Monday, 1 July 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
here https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/birefringence
― imago, Monday, 1 July 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link
Thanks!
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 July 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link
The central portion of "Dissected Grace" is drawn from William Blake's Europe: A Prophecy. This album is additionally indebted to Morag Josephine Grant's Serial Music, Serial Aesthetics; Thomas Pynchon's Against the Day; Carlo Michelstaedter's Persuasion & Rhetoric; Keiji Nishitani's The Self-Overcoming of Nihilism; Walter Benjamin; György Lukács; James Tenney; Robinson Jeffers."
Walter Benjamin!
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Monday, 1 July 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 July 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
it isn't quite metal or anything else but the 'insane slowcore electro trap lullaby' that is The Foam That Flows From The Mouths Of Wild Boars is more or less the most stunning thing I've heard in a very long time, and I want everyone on ILM to hear it
― imago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link
Wasn't sure about the first track but the rest sounded very good.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
the song imago speaks of goes absolutely nowhere
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link
or have i got the songs mixed up? the last song is the one i speak of
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
5th track. closer is an ambient classical piece
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2019 05:34 (four years ago) link
My problem with what little I've heard of his music is that it's usually less interesting than that of his avant-garde and classical touchstones, although the cultivated art brut vibe does add something different (and very American) to the equation, bringing to mind someone like Harry Partch. I mentioned Ferneyhough earlier (because he wrote an opera on Walter Benjamin, Shadowtime, and 'Angelus Novus' is a fairly transparent allusion to the 'Theses on the Philosophy of History') and I always wonder why LJ never reps for that kind of notated maximalist stuff.
Anyway, I'm halfway through Birefringence right now and so far it's won me over, including that first track.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 08:35 (four years ago) link
simple answer: ferneyhough et al rarely recorded a definitive version of their works and released it as an object of art. my idiot consumer brain still can't deal with the notion of notated music. too many interpretations, too much responsibility on the performers. this is my failing obviously
i *can* however deal with live recordings (or live performances i attend) of previously-released material, so maybe the mere existence of a definitive version with a release date and a length is enough to validate subsequent reworkings. i also like it when artists cover other artists' songs
what am i on about, sorry
― imago, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link
The good news is there are plenty of composer-supervised, even composer-approved recordings of 20th and 21st century works, although in Ferneyhough's case it raises inextricable paradoxes insofar as his music is all about the tension between reading, listening and playing.
I'd also like to point out that your take (which I share to some degree, as I'm still very much attached to the figure of the auteur – or autrice – regardless of art form) is distinctly un-Benjamin-esque: the aura thus no longer clings to a given performance, having shifted towards the endlessly reproducible recording itself.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink
Please don't lol
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link
On account of the Benjamin reference. So I was half-joking.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link
Are you still keeping up with new 'new' music?
Not really, no, a bit sad about it but there's little to no time to invest in it. But I do want to make it to some concerts.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link
That's too bad. I've all but given up on film for similar reasons so I don't blame you.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:01 (four years ago) link
it's interesting that i started the thread on this artist because i absolutely and fundamentally do not understand their music
― treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
this is more an observation about myself than jute gyte. i wish i understood some music theory.
― treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
I sort of don't fully understand either, but it is awfully pretty
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
yeah, i mean sometimes i like to listen to really evil sounding black metal while thumbing through my copy of dante's inferno. jute gyte has hit this spot before -- i remember ressentiment having a really claustrophobic sound i liked. it reminds me of the time nakh corrected me for misusing the term "ressentiment" in conversation.
― treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link
His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.
The aleatoric and serialist methods he uses I understand both from instinct and from our private communications to be as much a means of generating creativity through restriction and formation of process as they are integral to the desired sound
― imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link