Most ridiculous post about 'NTS Sessions 1-4' album on the Autechre thread

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As a software developer, I can attest that "upgrade" doesn't always mean "better."

Also lol at this thread.

Twyla Thwoorp (Leee), Monday, 30 April 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

I don't understand why we have to police fans for being enthusiastic and hyperbolic

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

enthusiasm is rockist

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

As someone who has never listened to Autechre, for no particular reasons, these descriptions have convinced me to give them a serious shot.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

The answer is Whiney perpetually feels he has to be ~ahead of the game~, beat the backlash before it beats him. He'll still put NTS1-4 in his EOTY top 10, just you wait. He'll rave about it yet only in writing he's actually paid for. On here he'll scorn and police people *liking music*. He can't do it without an ~ironic fight~ on a message board. Not realising that tiresome gig is up since, what, 1998?

You could be that person too, Moodles. Alternatively, you might not want to bother with that tiresome meta-post-shizzle stick dragged out into ancient history, making a caricature out of yourself. In which case you are way, way better off. Choose wisely!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

I could? Gosh.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

Weary Whiney stick is weary, is all.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link

I love that Whiney makes fun of ILM! On the other hand, all of those poll choices are my kind of posts, are what I come to ILM for

Dan S, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

Lol u all mad

brimstead, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

As a software developer, I can attest that "upgrade" doesn't always mean "better."


It's called a dictionary

brimstead, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link

The defensive nonsense on this thread is actually a significant portion of why I need never try to appreciate autechre again after various failed experiments

Props to those who own up to it; everybody else, lol your gods are mortal and lame

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

(I like very old autechre; LP5 and later just doesn’t do anything for me, sorry)

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link

I think the dividing line is just after LP5 tbh (although I love every iteration of Autechre!)

Dan S, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

I'm ok with saying Autechre is lame or whatever, I just don't see the point of taking people to task for enjoying them the wrong way

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

(I like very old autechre; LP5 and later just doesn’t do anything for me, sorry)

― El Tomboto


it's ok. you don't need to apologize ... (defensive nonsense?)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link

whiney is of course bitchy as hell but this poll is good

despite not having read the thread, i feel confident i voted for lj <3

mookieproof, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

seriously torn between software upgrade and magic eye poster

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

I'm thinking of moving my Autechre CDs from the "Electronic • Dance" section of my collection to the "Ou

thouse"

the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 02:05 (five years ago) link

outsider music? outlaw country? outré? I haven't heard this new 8-hour-long Autechre album, but I bet it's the perfect soundtrack for the task of arranging and rearranging your CD collection into increasingly byzantine micro-genres :p

the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link

lol

the late great, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link

software update is the funniest, but the magic eye post has the poetry of an ilx classic like the core, the heart music.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link

Good grief, it's not at all about defending 'fandom' or a daft post. Just a mild reposte in the ironic petty spirit of the thread. Got a bit out of hand but I didn't reach for words like bitch and fool. Apologies map anyway.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 05:21 (five years ago) link

*riposte

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 05:23 (five years ago) link

it's 8 hours so it covers quite a bit of ground and is hard to broadly characterize, but large swaths of the NTS sessions are the most approachable and conventionally melodic and beautiful they've sounded since the 90s.

these would all be on my autechre greatest hits:

donk steady one (22:25)
e0 (10:25)
cluster casual (11:03)
g1 e 1 (6:59)
column thirteen (17:02)
all end (58:21)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link

*gonk
Also "north spiral" rules

startled macropod (MatthewK), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 06:11 (five years ago) link

i think i just have new donk city on the brain

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 06:17 (five years ago) link

it sounds like a bunch of skronking grinding noises

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 07:14 (five years ago) link

pretty good though

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 07:15 (five years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

never stop calling it donk city karl

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link

Forget it, Karl. It's Donk City.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

ok went with magic eye

flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

who said that anyway, it's great

flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

ugh I hate the idea that there is anything to "get" with Autechre. It's just incredibly great sounding music / sound. I guess you need to listen to a lot to work up a shared aesthetic, but I get the same direct connection from, I dunno, "6IE.CR" that I get from "I Know You Got Soul". No abstract thought required. And I am 99.999% sure that they are motivated the same way, the most cerebral they get is making algorithms to generate / control / sequence the sound, same way a guitarist might study with a new teacher to expand their vocab, but the aesthetic decision making is based on "does this sound fucking cool / moving / menacing" and not "does this advance our art according to manifesto X".
Their DJ sets from the streaming broadcasts around Quaristice / Oversteps / Exai are great listening, just a lot of great Detroit, oldschool, boom-bap and atmospheric work. Sure, some heady and obscure things, but clearly assembled with love and a disregard for cool-factor or w/e.
They get bored with the old shit, they make new shit, it becomes more extreme over time, they acquire more skills at getting what they want and the formats allow more flexibility. I'm glad to be alive while they're doing it.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link

I listen to Autechre lots of different ways. As ambient music (in every sense), as intellectualized generative music (however composed or not), as textured electronic music, as tactile or more conventional beat-driven music, as really precise bricolage, as abstract experimental music. And so on. Subtle distinctions, sometimes, and sometimes what I perceive is just a matter of my mood. Other times it's just a matter of sitting in a different chair.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:53 (five years ago) link

nts 1 is straight fire

you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link

I agree with MatthewK's last post. the only thing that i think might be difficult for people is the length? outside of idk classical and jazz there aren't a lot of formats that are asking people to let something drift for 20 minutes.

you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:07 (five years ago) link

There are six (6) Autechre threads on the main page right now!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link

(And I’m not counting whatever’s happening in the “various boom bap” threads)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:20 (five years ago) link

you're welcome

you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:22 (five years ago) link

dare I say it's because they've unloaded one of the most jaw dropping artistic achievements of the decade, just now?

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:39 (five years ago) link

You’re supposed to say something like, “Another thread starts in 144,632 seconds!”

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link

Dunno autechre are about as esoteric as it gets, there’s plenty to get we’ve just drank the kool aid. I know people who despise their music

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 04:33 (five years ago) link

Yeah but it's not like people who dislike it, have failed to put in the work to "get" it. First track of theirs I heard, I thought oh boy I like that, and it's been that way for 20-odd years since. Some of their stuff I don't like - e.g. a lot of Oversteps, Tri Repetae - but I don't expect to do more study to get what I was missing.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link

Fair

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 05:08 (five years ago) link

I love Oversteps, Tri Repetae++!! Those are really two of the highlights of their entire catalog for me

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 05:36 (five years ago) link

^ same

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link

Well the "++" aspect (i.e. the Garbage and Anvil Vapre EPs) I totally love too, but TR itself feels like single sounds / patterns dragged out for long tracks without a lot of interest for me. Maybe too "industrial" since I love Amber and that has many of the same qualities. Oversteps I like individual bits of (krYlon comes to mind) but I found it a bit underwhelming on release and never warmed to it.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:15 (five years ago) link


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