software upgrades just because they're really unpleasant
Things getting better = unpleasant? OK.
― Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Friday, 27 April 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link
Can "this is pleasant music" be added to the poll? Autechre is always my first port of call when I want some pleasant music.
― Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Friday, 27 April 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link
show me someone who believes software upgrades are "things getting better" in 2018 and i'll show you a fool. p.s. don't be a bitch
― you bet, nancy (map), Friday, 27 April 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link
Upgrade by definition means things getting better. If it isn't better it's not an upgrade.
If you want to wilfully misconstrue that I think it's only fair to return the favour and mention that "this is pleasant music" is more nauseating than anything in the poll.
― Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link
There's no band I wish I liked more than Autechre. On paper, they seem like exactly what I want in a band, but everything I've listened to has been impenetrable. Might try again with this new release
― Vinnie, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:38 (five years ago) link
autechre counts as a band? now i’ve seen it all!
― the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link
though i agree strongly w the reading that confield was a post rock album
― the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link
lentic catachresis is a post-rock jam for sure
― imago, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link
Band, group, team, faction, whatever. Is it too late to add my comment to the poll options?
― Vinnie, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:52 (five years ago) link
xp as others have noted it even ends in a digital feedback squeal
― the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link
autechre is NOT a band
good day, sir!
― the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/Dr-Jeffrey-Thompson-Celestial-Dolphin/release/2846361
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 28 April 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link
Relax, it's not the end of Autechre. They're hitting peak form, touring, releasing more and more music. People asked the same thing when L-Event finished with "Newbound".
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Saturday, 28 April 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link
I love you, Whiney. Never change.
― octobeard, Saturday, 28 April 2018 06:57 (five years ago) link
looks like my 20-year experience of Windows is an outlier then
― the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link
If anyone else is struggling with the meaning of the word upgrade I can suggest a dictionary or y'know, context ;-)
You're even free to look it up on your Encarta CD-ROM.
― Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 10:30 (five years ago) link
love it when ilxors wilfully misunderstand each other
― brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Saturday, 28 April 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link
it's a wilfully, pugnaciously bad take. if you're saying that software developers don't routinely release things called upgrades that sometimes make the user experience actively worse then i don't know how to argue. if you're saying that an upgrade that doesn't improve the user experience isn't an upgrade then that just semantic nonsense.
i mean it's also entirely irrelevant but fuck it, it's a quiet Saturday.
― the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link
It's fine if you associate a word with some poor usage but a) that's not what it means and b) it's clear as fuck not what was intended in the original sentence - "software upgrades that make previous iterations redundant."
Also, many software upgrades are actually good.
― Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link
Words gain their meaning from usage, and if dictionaries don't show this yet, then that's because they're slow to update.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 28 April 2018 12:10 (five years ago) link
So "upgrade" is primarily euphemistic now? Even when qualified as obviously positive?
Funny tho, I genuinely associate software upgrades with cool new stuff that pisses on earlier versions.
― Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 12:13 (five years ago) link
Euphemistic / ironic.
― Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link
https://www.nolimitsendurance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Jason-No-Limits-Endurance-Coaching.jpg
― type your stinkin prose off me, ur damned qwerty uiop (wins), Saturday, 28 April 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link
As a software developer, I can attest that "upgrade" doesn't always mean "better."
Also lol at this thread.
― Twyla Thwoorp (Leee), Monday, 30 April 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
I don't understand why we have to police fans for being enthusiastic and hyperbolic
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link
enthusiasm is rockist
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link
As someone who has never listened to Autechre, for no particular reasons, these descriptions have convinced me to give them a serious shot.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link
The answer is Whiney perpetually feels he has to be ~ahead of the game~, beat the backlash before it beats him. He'll still put NTS1-4 in his EOTY top 10, just you wait. He'll rave about it yet only in writing he's actually paid for. On here he'll scorn and police people *liking music*. He can't do it without an ~ironic fight~ on a message board. Not realising that tiresome gig is up since, what, 1998?
You could be that person too, Moodles. Alternatively, you might not want to bother with that tiresome meta-post-shizzle stick dragged out into ancient history, making a caricature out of yourself. In which case you are way, way better off. Choose wisely!
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link
I could? Gosh.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link
Weary Whiney stick is weary, is all.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link
I love that Whiney makes fun of ILM! On the other hand, all of those poll choices are my kind of posts, are what I come to ILM for
― Dan S, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link
This kind of post is probably how /r/SRS started, too.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/03/26/48-hours-inside-the-internets-most-toxic-community/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4d4339300507
― StanM, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link
Lol u all mad
― brimstead, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link
― brimstead, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link
The defensive nonsense on this thread is actually a significant portion of why I need never try to appreciate autechre again after various failed experiments Props to those who own up to it; everybody else, lol your gods are mortal and lame
― El Tomboto, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link
(I like very old autechre; LP5 and later just doesn’t do anything for me, sorry)
― El Tomboto, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link
I think the dividing line is just after LP5 tbh (although I love every iteration of Autechre!)
― Dan S, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link
I'm ok with saying Autechre is lame or whatever, I just don't see the point of taking people to task for enjoying them the wrong way
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link
(I like very old autechre; LP5 and later just doesn’t do anything for me, sorry)― El Tomboto
― El Tomboto
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link
whiney is of course bitchy as hell but this poll is good
despite not having read the thread, i feel confident i voted for lj <3
― mookieproof, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link
seriously torn between software upgrade and magic eye poster
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link
I'm thinking of moving my Autechre CDs from the "Electronic • Dance" section of my collection to the "Ou
― the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 02:05 (five years ago) link
outsider music? outlaw country? outré? I haven't heard this new 8-hour-long Autechre album, but I bet it's the perfect soundtrack for the task of arranging and rearranging your CD collection into increasingly byzantine micro-genres :p
― the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link
lol
― the late great, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link
software update is the funniest, but the magic eye post has the poetry of an ilx classic like the core, the heart music.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link
Good grief, it's not at all about defending 'fandom' or a daft post. Just a mild reposte in the ironic petty spirit of the thread. Got a bit out of hand but I didn't reach for words like bitch and fool. Apologies map anyway.
― Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 05:21 (five years ago) link
*riposte
― Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 05:23 (five years ago) link
it's 8 hours so it covers quite a bit of ground and is hard to broadly characterize, but large swaths of the NTS sessions are the most approachable and conventionally melodic and beautiful they've sounded since the 90s.
these would all be on my autechre greatest hits:
donk steady one (22:25)e0 (10:25)cluster casual (11:03)g1 e 1 (6:59)column thirteen (17:02)all end (58:21)
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link
*gonkAlso "north spiral" rules
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 06:11 (five years ago) link
i think i just have new donk city on the brain
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 06:17 (five years ago) link
It'd be a delightful twist of events if Autechre started using mechanical spring reverb (recording their sounds through amplifiers, etc.), instead of relying on the digital reverb-freeze effects that have been so prominent since the Quaristice days. I suppose it's ridiculous to consider such a thing. If anything, Ae seem to be moving further / farther away from hardware (old school synthesizers, Elektron boxes, etc.), towards this hyper-digital frontier
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 7 December 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
has there been a poll for Session 4 yet? that one is my favorite by far
― flappy bird, Friday, 7 December 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link
Christmas number one material, this Sinistrail Sentinel :-)
― StanM, Saturday, 8 December 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
Chart rules don't allow free downloads otherwise it would be a shoo-in.
― The First (Noel Emits), Saturday, 8 December 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
who's going to start the session 4 poll then?
― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Saturday, 8 December 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link
pendulu hv moda is sinistrail sentinel's moda if sinistrailAB air is its fada.
― The First (Noel Emits), Saturday, 8 December 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
https://fivedials.com/reportage/an-album-can-last-a-day-sam-byers/
― j., Saturday, 22 December 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
it’s not always the music that changes; sometimes it’s you, and the world around you, with the music becoming a fixed point against which you can measure your own inexorable journey through time.otm
― lukas, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:49 (five years ago) link