Autechre: Classic or Dud?

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"gonk tuf hi" definitely needed the word "gonk" in the title.

j., Friday, 27 April 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link

lol if you play any stretch of this for 99.999% of listeners the first thing they will complain about is how repetitive it is

j., Friday, 27 April 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link

I'm not sure "repetitive" is the first word 99.999% would use.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

IMO Exai marked a shift in how critics covered these guys. A lot of them seemed annoyed at having to review an incredibly dense 2 hour album on a deadline, and that came through in the writing. I remember thinking it was kinda funny when L-Event came out right after, it's like in cartoons when a character gets pelted with an avalanche of objects and sits there dazed for a few seconds, then a teacup falls on their head. In hindsight a lot of those Exai reviews were pretty off the mark (outside of dog latin's, of course) and I think both fans and critics just handled them differently after that. They're entering a sort of inscrutable phase of their career - like how many people in this thread have a good handle on all the elseq stuff yet?

frogbs, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link

I started struggling a bit wth Autechre around "Untilted" and lost track a bit, up to and including "Exai." But I really liked elseq, iirc, and that super epic live stream they did a couple of years back, even if I never listened to them again, tbh. But this new stuff, I'm really digging it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link

Hmm, so "All End," it finally hit me what this is reminding me of: Tim Hecker. Stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE9mT4JaW_0

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

o god pls someone affirm it's better than Hecker

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link

Is Hecker bad? Anyway, the Ae is good, so fine, it's "better than Hecker."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link

personal distaste, it's all fine

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

wow finally something i agree with imago on

i like his early stuff tho

brimstead, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link

i love tim hecker, lol

i'm also listening to "all end" right now and this is my shit

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

towards the latter half of "all end" it strongly recalls one of the later-period Tim Hecker albums.. Ravedeath, I think. Otherwise, the bulk (the surface, at least) of it, is from the outro to "bladelores" (Exai)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link

the timbre / quality of it, even - kinda glassy, maybe it's Virgins

mirrage, column thirteen, shimripl casual are gorgeous ae

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

column thirteen harks back to Oversteps in a lovely way.. it brings back that sort of buttery, humid quality of pt2ph8 (et al)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 27 April 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

There is definitely some sort of melody in "All End." Maybe just a few notes or huge chords hanging there, but it's there, in the background, spooky and menacing and cycling around.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

The title makes me worry that "all end" is their swan song... hopefully it's the all end for just NTS and not Autechre as a band.

octobeard, Friday, 27 April 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

After attending a show a week ago where William Basinski's Disintegration Loops were played in their entirety over the course of an evening (with the audience encouraged to bring beddings and sleep over while listening), now I kinda want to experience the NTS sessions unedited during an 8 hour sit in at a venue.

octobeard, Friday, 27 April 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link

Do their catalog numbers all mean something? They're certainly not in order anymore.

Untilted = WARP180 (something to do with 180 degrees = no angles?)
Oversteps = WARP210 (10th album)
Elseq = WARP512 (5 volumes, 12th album?)
NTS = WARP364 (36 tracks, 4 sessions?)

StanM, Saturday, 28 April 2018 07:31 (six years ago) link

Thanks to insomnia, I just woke up and started Session 4 over again.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 28 April 2018 07:51 (six years ago) link

Man, I tried with Session 4 and about 30 minutes into I was feeling crazy anxious and like a headache was coming on. I've tried over and over with late Autechre, but I don't think I can do it.

Maybe I need to buy a ton of w33d to spend some time with these jamz.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 28 April 2018 08:01 (six years ago) link

I slept to v4 on a loop all night and had a full 8 hours sleep for the first time in weeks. off to he gym! lalalalala

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Saturday, 28 April 2018 09:50 (six years ago) link

if somebody can edit this down to the best 12 minutes i'll listen

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 April 2018 13:55 (six years ago) link

I had to turn off Session 3 this morning and put on All End instead. That track is not necessarily indicative of the rest of the set(s), but it's what I keep coming back to. And it's an hour long, so ...

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 April 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link

http://www.namesdir.net/s/gonk

j., Saturday, 28 April 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link

i listened to all the NTS sets today. WOW.

'column thirteen' is just astonishing, so psychedelic and transporting, it kind of reminds me of harold budd.

there's so much great stuff here. i already like it more than elseq

you bet, nancy (map), Sunday, 29 April 2018 03:15 (six years ago) link

maybe i need to hear these in a diff frame of mind, CDs on the stereo, proper rest, etc... Elseq seemed more engaging, interesting (sustained) beyond the initial novelty of its release.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 29 April 2018 04:39 (six years ago) link

have bought and stuck this on

so far so good

imago, Sunday, 29 April 2018 10:03 (six years ago) link

Real talk: I am unable to prevent myself from reading "shimripl" as "shrimpl". Looking in vain for companion track "wytwyyn".

startled macropod (MatthewK), Sunday, 29 April 2018 10:42 (six years ago) link

so far, most of the way through Set 2, the best piece imo has been 'xflood'

imago, Sunday, 29 April 2018 13:18 (six years ago) link

xp no it is shrimpl your copy is mislabeled

j., Sunday, 29 April 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link

shrimpimpl

StanM, Sunday, 29 April 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link

i listened to all the NTS sets today. WOW.

'column thirteen' is just astonishing, so psychedelic and transporting, it kind of reminds me of harold budd.

there's so much great stuff here. i already like it more than elseq

dammit

I keep telling myself "you don't actually need this" and then my man map has to do something like this

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 29 April 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link

you do need this

j., Sunday, 29 April 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link

i think these are going to take a lot longer to sink in with me than elseq, may need some special headphone listening time carved out somehow.

lana del boy (ledge), Sunday, 29 April 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

yeah so far I think elseq is more relevant to my tastes but will pick up from halfway through 3 later

imago, Sunday, 29 April 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

A rave review of NTS Sessions 1-4 is up here.

EvR, Sunday, 29 April 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link

This deserves a 20/5 and everyone knows it

frogbs, Sunday, 29 April 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

I'm 3/4 of the way through "all end" now and it's like a combination of some kind of pink-cloud ambient music, Aine O'Dwyer's church organ improvisations, and the beginning of Godflesh's "Love, Hate (Slugbaiting)." This whole set is amazing, but this one piece - which I'm assuming will get its own CD when the physical version arrives - is the kind of thing you want to turn up to window-rattling volume and just live in for an hour.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 29 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

is there an easy way to listen to the first 3 sessions online, now? i would enjoy doing a mega-listen today but the only one streaming is the 4th.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 29 April 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link

They're all there on the bleepstore.

https://autechre.bleepstores.com/

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Sunday, 29 April 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

My family keeps telling me to turn this off, which is probably for the best, because if they didn't, I would be listening to it all the time.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 April 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link

oh, i didn't know they were streaming there! should have been obvious, i suppose, but thanks!

Karl Malone, Sunday, 29 April 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link

I wonder if its really worth taking the 7:59:45 plunge

we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 29 April 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

Could be worse, could be 8-hours long.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 April 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

I bought it

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 29 April 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

'cause i depend on ae

lana del boy (ledge), Sunday, 29 April 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link

xpost Are you a fan? I can't wait to hear your opinion. Sometimes music like this, it's easy to forget that it isn't everyone's cup of tea, even if they are already fans. Similarly, it's sometimes hard for me to tell if I like one Autechre album better than another because it actually is better or just because for whatever reason it resonates more.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 April 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

all end made me want to listen to coil's time machines again

StanM, Sunday, 29 April 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link

donk steady one is so good
there is a whole crew, deservedly

Karl Malone, Monday, 30 April 2018 01:02 (six years ago) link

the interior minutes of 'eO' are so, so good

Karl Malone, Monday, 30 April 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link


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