Prog V3.0 Discussion Thread

whoa the Star Period Star is really good

:D

And I didn't know Cheer-Accident had a new one, that's really exciting! I never liked SGM unfortunately but the bandcamp blurb has got me seriously hyped

Actually you knwo what

I actually like the Birds And Buildings debut better overall than the Deluge Grander debut. There seems to be a couple of parts from the first track repeated in later tracks but I wasn't sure.

i need to listen to B&B again but my impression was that it was interesting and varied

The last track has clip of Kenneth Clark's Civilization documentary series! I get a feeling that this guy's music is a lot about upheavals throughout history but sometimes the lyrics are hard to grasp.

"Chakra Khan" sounds like a username here.

glad star period star have a new one, good to know bob drake's involved. liked them a lot but it was hard to find any info about them on the internet for a very long time.

ni combined with another band i haven't heard of called poil and they put out this record. it's pretty proggy.

https://piniol.bandcamp.com/album/bran-coucou

SPS are obscure even by avant-prog standards, I was surprised to learn that they'd been going since the mid-90s.

Piniol looks interesting, added that to my to do list

yea that first B&B album is an all-timer. the second album is a bit less accessible but it's just as good. lotta curveballs in that one.

still digesting Oceanarium, it's just so damn thick and difficult to parse if you aren't giving full attention. but it's sounding better every time I hear it.

Piniol album very nice.

koenjihyakkei has a new one coming out next month, i know they've been working on it for a while - i have an earlier digest video from jan 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L358RmKgN0

oh fuck yeah

New The Mercury Program someone just alerted me to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ScTcdo1CA

Microtonal tunings!

The Mercury Tree I mean, oops

White Willow anyone? Online store samples of the albums don't sound that interesting.

This track is great but it's more akin to Tim Bowness solo than White Willow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHohhvLLb8o

There's a new Regal Worm coming soon, the lead track is lovely.

https://regalworm.bandcamp.com/album/pig-views

Miasma And The Carousel Of Headless Horses - Manfauna

Coolest band name ever, music is nice enough but I never got deep enough into it. Sounds like Guapo and there are two members from that band. Cant believe how old this release is, it seemed like only a few years ago this band was getting hyped and they only put out two things. I might try Perils sometime but I'm a little disappointed.

Guapo released so much more than I knew.

Early Guapo was/is fantastic, especially live, like a British Ground Zero, ex-member posts here on the reg too.

Only one I got was Five Suns. The second track was totally incredible but other otherwise couldn't get into it.

behold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3SS27wGjq0

I heard English Electric Part 1 when it came out and was appaled at the brass balls nerve they had, lifting big chunks of Genesis songs and tweaking them slightly while the vocalist sings a Wikipedia page over the top, then it grew on me and I really started to like it.

i sorta felt the same way about the second Feelies album and the Velvet Underground (and Pavement and the Fall (and Interpol and Joy Division)) but i got over that. for sure there's a major cheesiness to some Big Big Train songs which can be a huge turnoff but when they're on they do legit neo-Genesis better than Elbow does

This new Regal Worm record sounds pretty great on first listen.

https://regalworm.bandcamp.com/

ex-member posts here on the reg too.

― MaresNest, Friday, 27 July 2018 19:29 (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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Oh, do you think I'm referring to myself LJ? Goodness no! I fucking WISH I was in Guapo circa 2000.

"I really quite liked the Big Big Train record from a couple of years back, but I was totally amazed at the very blatant, wholesale lifting of certain very well known themes by Genesis and nobody in the press or on the net called it, which I thought was weird/interesting."

I can't get into a single thing this band has done. like flower kings before them. it just sounds generic and dull to me.

also their name is dumb

I tried to get into Big Big Train a while back but the albums I got were their earlier ones before they'd really gotten hyped up. What's a good starting point, or should I just not bother?

Flower Kings are another group I tried to get into...I mean, they sounded like a dream come true, with double-disc albums every year, tons of epics, and a bunch of musicians whose names I recognized even without knowing the band. And then I heard 'em, and...yeah. I actually think they do okay when they go more pop, but when it comes to the proggier stuff they write themselves into corners over and over again. And that voice! Christ. I had one called "Stardust We Are" that was kinda nice. It's 2 hours long.

for me all of these bands fall down when the compositions aren't interesting enough. Porcupine Tree was great because Wilson is an excellent songwriter. It's not enough to follow prog templates if you can't write an interesting melody or aren't doing something really interesting and experimental.

What's a good starting point

my favorite three are grimspound, folklore, and the second brightest star. all way better than anything i've heard by flower kings (even roine's album with jon anderson), on par with vintage kaipa

yea that's the long and short of it. FKs definitely have a few memorable tunes but they usually tend to be the more novelty-oriented stuff that draws from "Harold the Barrel" or "Benny the Bouncer". BBT on the other hand, I listened to the one album I've got nearly a dozen times and I remember like, two small vocal melodies. it was Gathering Speed, dunno how representative that is of their other work. I assume they got better.

those three i listed are all new-ish

alright I'll check 'em out. some people are absolutely nuts about the band so I figure I owe it another try

the only bands like that I really have time for are Glass Hammer and The Tangent. GH is the first "Christian prog" group I've ever heard of, which is actually kind of neat since they take a lot of influence from church music and the like. They definitely try to make their music sound as "big" as possible which is neat. The Tangent have a lot of the same issues as the FKs (Roine Stolt was a member for a while) but I think Tillison is a much more interesting songwriter. plus his lyrics are way better.

i've never taken to the tangent but i haven't heard much, either. there are moments in glass hammer as good as classic yes imho. also don't wanna overhype big big train; if you dig the strawbs' vibe you might hear something in them too

the only bands like that I really have time for are Glass Hammer and The Tangent. GH is the first "Christian prog" group I've ever heard of, which is actually kind of neat since they take a lot of influence from church music and the like. They definitely try to make their music sound as "big" as possible which is neat. The Tangent have a lot of the same issues as the FKs (Roine Stolt was a member for a while) but I think Tillison is a much more interesting songwriter. plus his lyrics are way better.

― frogbs

wait you've heard of glass hammer but not, like, kansas?

was gonna say yes but it turns out I was thinking of Camel

I do have one Kansas album though.

I need to get Frost's third album someday. I thought they might have more so I'm slightly relieved.

you should, it rules. the opening track has a pretty unique reference point - "Synchronicity I" by the Police. really wish there were more bands like that out there.

Have just discovered Major Parkinson. Based on their latest album, wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvMPkt_ZFss

^^^Ten-minute song called Baseball that can fairly be described as early Cardiacs and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum fighting over who gets to cosplay Muse

i don't know that i've ever heard muse but i do like it!

grohl grows up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=e05H80-k0mY

https://www.loudersound.com/news/voivod-the-wake-is-one-of-the-most-intricate-albums-weve-ever-done

“It’s definitely one of the most intricate albums we’ve done. The songs are pretty long, very complicated and have lots of prog rock moments and a bit of psychedelia. Of course the punk/thrash metal signature is still there."

y'all the new bubu record is the bomb, and i don't even really _like_ the first bubu record

https://bubuprog.bandcamp.com/album/bubu

I had a fear the EP Bubu released was ghoing to be some kind of anomaly, really pleased they have a new one out. I do like their first album too though!

It took me years to get into Voivod and still haven't heard anything they've done after '97 but this new one sounds cool

folks,

folks,

it's nearly Thumpermonkey time

https://thumpermonkey.bandcamp.com/album/make-me-young-etc

dauntingly kickass opening track previewing

look, it has a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4GKEoaq6ig

nice. friday neo-canterburyexpialodocious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKOjOqbHpY4