She had a lot of nice things to say about Teenie Hodges, so she's got good taste in guitarists.
― eddhurt, Thursday, 26 April 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link
when a 46-year-old bored housewife claims she's recorded "nine feminist bangers," i pay attention
― mookieproof, Thursday, 26 April 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link
in other words, she was unprofessional.
― eddhurt, Thursday, 26 April 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
I like all of her albums, really. You Are Free is my favourite. I rate Sun quite highly too - anyone else have anything nice to say about that one?Both of her covers albums are pretty great as well.
The Greatest might be my least fave, it sounds a little cheesy at times. I've only seen her once, it was either the tour for that album or one shortly thereafter, where she played a lot of songs from it with a band, and I didn't think much of that concert at all. I had understood that she has a reputation for unpredictable live shows but that time sounded very formulaic to me, lacking heart, with a band that sounded like a bunch of studio players without any passion.
Unfortunately, I can't help but get a gnawing demon in my head whispering "Vaccine truther!" whenever I think of her these days. Luckily I manage to silence that demon enough to subsequently still enjoy listening to her records.
― Valentijn, Thursday, 26 April 2018 07:45 (six years ago) link
Edd you're coming off a little patronising in your comments - I don't know you of course, but I'm letting you know how it's coming across. Whatever her difficulties Marshall is a serious artist with a significant body of great work and deserves respect.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 April 2018 07:47 (six years ago) link
Wait... Chan is a scientologist nowadays!? Sigh noone’s perfect
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 April 2018 07:53 (six years ago) link
I don’t want to know don’t tell me
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 April 2018 07:59 (six years ago) link
It’s weird if they wanted to push her voice as soul but then again not sure what tag genre it fits? Blues mixed with slacker indie from the early mid 90s... slacker blues maybe... but soul idk...
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 April 2018 08:04 (six years ago) link
Edd are you serious man? christ
― done and dusted (Ross), Thursday, 26 April 2018 09:15 (six years ago) link
I don't see a big difference between unprofessional and highly erratic performer. There's plenty of musicians I love that I have no desire to see live again (Westerberg & Lucinda jump to mind pretty quickly).
Pretty big Sun fan here as well-Manhattan, Nothin But Time in particular are gorgeous.
― campreverb, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link
Sun is exceptional.
― Evan R, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link
I saw her once on a bill with Sleater-Kinney when I was in high school, she performed (I thought pretty well) for 40 minutes or so, not really engaging much with the audience, then said “knock knock,” we answered “who’s there,” and she walked off stage.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link
xp Jukebox is maybe her only bad album, and even that one has "Metal Heart"
She was one of the best indie artists of the late '90s and early '00s and I've kind of been puzzling over why her stature has fallen so much in recent years, but reading through some of the comments in this thread it's like, oh yeah gross sexism
― Evan R, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link
xp lol, that's pretty good
i saw her solo in 98 or 99 and she did not seem to be in a very good place, but when she sat down at the piano and played "i found a reason" ... wow.
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link
yeah her version of that song is so devastating
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link
my fave memory is of seeing her at Bumbershoot in 1999 maybe a year after that Moon Pix tour, the Covers album hadn't come out yet and slowly figuring out that she was playing "Satisfaction" w/o the chorus totally gave me chills
― sleeve, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
haha, literally listening to Jukebox and thinking how great the Dylan cover is in particular.I love the two 'Memphis'records (Greatest/Jukebox).
I've seen her play live twice, both times had a...rollercoaster quality if you will.
― campreverb, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
teenie hodges is basically god
― brimstead, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
I think I was pretty fair to her in this 2013 interview piece.
― eddhurt, Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
I only ever saw her live once, in 2001, at Reading Festival, while Papa Roach were on the main stage. It was not good. Could barely hear her over the nu-metal
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link
― JoeStork
that is amazing.
I have never seen her live. I hope to someday. Found this the other night, didn't know she was on tour - pretty good performance!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xoMsddrowY
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link
Saw her on MoonPix tour in a tiny club in 98 with Jim & Mick, this show in fact:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4XqTl0ACoY
which was uh... a bit up and down, she was very very nervous. This video seems to belie that.
The only other time I saw her was on The Greatest tour with the Memphis Soul Review in a larger seated theater, pretty good from what I remember, I'd had a bit of wine at dinner (it was my birthday).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 26 April 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link
I'm definitely the wrong kind of Cat Power fan cause my fav alb is The Greatest, also her Dylan parody is hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Ic2-N8Vo0
― niels, Thursday, 26 April 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link
Lol at that knock knock joke. Always heard the album cover to the Smog album Knock Knock (cat + lightning) was a Cat Power nod, guess the title is too?
― two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Thursday, 26 April 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
The 1-2 punch of "Still In Love" into "Rockets" on Myra Lee is one of my favorite song pairings ever, even better if I can crank it up to deafening when the drums kick in on the latter.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 27 April 2018 07:28 (five years ago) link
I've kind of been puzzling over why her stature has fallen so much in recent years
I'm not sure how much her stature has fallen, but whatever it is, I'd put it largely down to releasing one album of original material in a decade.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 27 April 2018 07:52 (five years ago) link
Jukebox is maybe her only bad album, and even that one has "Metal Heart"
And Song For Bobby is great too!
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 27 April 2018 07:53 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ss1uN1IHyA
Wanderer out October 5 on Domino.
https://media.pitchfork.com/photos/5b4ed569c2c1a63dc091b2ed/master/pass/Wanderer.jpg
01 Wanderer02 In Your Face03 You Get04 Woman [ft. Lana Del Rey]05 Horizon06 Stay07 Black08 Robbin Hood09 Nothing Really Matters10 Me Voy11 Wanderer / Exit
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
Cat Power + LDR is a teamup I did not anticipate.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:39 (five years ago) link
Same!
― Ross, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link
oh god I can totally hear it too
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link
oh hell yes.
― campreverb, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
sweet! the only show she's playing near me is opening for the national! not sweet!
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
My body is ready.
Any idea who is producing this one? The SVN album was self-produced and it showed, I think production is a key thing for my dislike of her past efforts. She has either sounded undercooked (SVN) or too cleanly adorned... like bordering on bland mor music (jukebox and greatest to some degree). Sometimes the songwriting and her voice makes it tolerable but when it’s bad it’s unlistenable to me.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
PR says it's self-produced
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
Mmm well cautiously excited for this one then.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link
as someone who generally doesn't notice these things, I have to say that the production on SUN was abominable. I listened to that album once and binned it.
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link
philippe zdar was ~involved~ with the mixing/production
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link
this really is a horrible thread title
― niels, Thursday, 19 July 2018 06:23 (five years ago) link
in beth's defense, it was before the towers fell
― flappy bird, Thursday, 19 July 2018 06:33 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8nU87OCrA
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link
Match made in heaven. You are free comes to mind
― Ross, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link
Great addition to "songs in which a doctor gives advice/diagnosis."
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link
Lana might as well not even be there.
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
relatable
― ogmor, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link
Lana might as well not even be there.otm
good song though, and production is good too (Moka)!
― niels, Thursday, 16 August 2018 08:05 (five years ago) link
the backing vocals are subtle enough to have just been another backing vocal from chan - the lana name probably helps more than anything to bolster sales tbh
― Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
i'd rather the extra vocals be more on the subtle side than too bluntly thrown in; imo she definitely adds to it, although it'd be nice if she was in the video
the refrain becomes a bit much at the end but otherwise good song
― lowercase (eric), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
good new song. excited for this album. I liked Sun well enough. I wish she'd released more albums and yes I think a bit part of her stature dropping was her not putting new original material out more often, also, she really did have a run of terrifyingly terrible live performances for a number of years there that sullied her reputation. I saw her with MIck and Jim touring for Moon PIx at a tiny club in Berkeley and she was great but ran off the stage the second she was done and didn't come back. The next four shows of hers I saw were erratic, unfinished, weird, scary. Then I didn't see her again for many years until recently opening for Nick Cave and she was so good solo in a huge outdoor venue with really not a lot of people listening to her. I'm glad she's doing better. She's very talented.
― akm, Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
Really excited for the record.
I was wondering how many of the current crop of female singer songwriters she influenced; I hear her in van Etten, Waxahatchee, Angel Olsen for example.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link