The Jordan Peterson Thread

Everyone hustling trying to make those JP bucks.

i don't know he seems more milo than dawkins. the alt-right stole a lot from the left, but the thing i'm most gratified about is their tendency to eat their own.

there is a very weird and very present vaporwave/alt-right crossover

there's also a strange convergence between the "incel" running down people in toronto and this thread

Shocking, utterly.

i mentioned the ATD mixtapes on the vaporwave thread a few weeks ago.
guess he is trying to pick up some traction give that he ditched the whole uk hip hop thing a few years ago when it was an obvious dead end for him.
other than the fact JP is really not my thing, the main problem is that JPs voice just aint right for vocal cut-up/mixtape action.

Man does this dude dish out well worn platitudes. He gets paid millions to coach on self help banalities like “control what you can control” - well duh. Only thing he says I think is helpful is how people need to find their own passion to feel connected, otherwise you may just feel empty working 9-5. But that’s obvious too

LOBSTERVATION COFFEE MUG

so did jordan peterson actually make that movie "the lobster"? i can't figure out what's going on anymore

this dude's so obsessed with helping the fringe lunatics see the light that it begs the question - who hurt U?

clearly his wallets not hurting with 36 thousand in donations a month

when i think lobsters i think Deleuze and Guattari so this whole thing would be tremendously confusing if i ever read anything about JorPee

my wife posted an old picture of me wearing a stupid novelty lobster hat on facebook yesterday and all i could think was 'shit i hope no-one thinks i'm a jordan peterson stan'

he has ruined lobsters for at least a generation imo

nah he's still a pond shrimp

God is a lobster or a double-claw, a double bind. It is not only the strata which pair up into twos at the very least, but in another fashion each strata is double (it will itself have many levels). Each strata presents, in effect, phenomena constitutive of a double articulation.

interesting piece by Wesley Yang: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a19834137/jordan-peterson-interview/

Yang's level of credulity toward JP is a bit troubling but I think he sort of successfully shows why someone who didn't know how to begin calling JP on his bullshit might find his message compelling

Perry Anderson to thread re: "postmodern Marxism"

'A bit troubling'? Lol

yang: "Increasingly one hears that the problem menacing the world today is not the excesses of masculinity, but masculinity itself. That masculinity itself must—and can—be eradicated."

who says this

all the bad people on ilx who must be trolled

got ya postmodern irony RIGHT HERE

Christ almighty at that interview, lol:

I noted that while we still read the canonical thinkers who presumed to address the big questions, nobody attempted to write in such a mode anymore. “People told me that the time for the great theories in psychology is over,” he said. “I said, ‘It might be over for you, but it’s not over for me.’ ”

Peterson made plain that he was speaking out against the enforced adoption of an unscientific political terminology, and not to denigrate the transgendered. Yet it was easy to call it an act of hate and harassment directed at a vulnerable minority, and many did.

Yes, seeing as there was no 'enforced adoption', it was quite easy to call it something else.

the police literally forced him to recognize somebody else's preferred mode of address rather than the absolutely correct scientific terminology handed down at the creation of time

language isn't science except when it is science when all of a sudden it's an absolutely transparent reference to unshakeable prelinguistic taxonomy

it's not just that he's wicked, or that he's a wicked moron, it's that he's a wicked moron i've already spent 5 minutes thinking about this morning because i couldn't be arsed to do something else

Bingo #2

all the bad people on ilx who must be trolled

― hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 07:42 (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

what if there was a peaceful noncontroptimist need to dismantle masculinity just because it's boring and loud or something but with peace and love peace and love

ive been at it years tbrrwu

i'd call it more "exasperated eyerolling" than actual trolling

it's not hard to get absurd people to say absurd things

nb: i am an absurd person

anyway, despite my being given to hyperbolic and extremist overstatement, i don't think even i would go so far as saying that masculinity should be eradicated, or that it has no virtues. i'm not a big fan of real or simulated violence, which seems to comprise a large chunk of "masculinity", but there are absolutely positive benefits to masculinity. grilling, for instance. grilling is cool.

removing stubborn jar lids

killing insects

reaching things on high shelves

an interesting one that one because it's actually biologically rooted, as opposed to most stuff classified as "masculine" which is just gender-as-social-construct shit

i don't get people who can't tell the difference. have these motherfuckers never seen a yogurt commercial?

can't wait til people stop using the world wide web because it was created by it dweebs

they got porn onto it

the most heroic dweebs what ever dweebed

but there are absolutely positive benefits to masculinity. grilling, for instance. grilling is cool.

Grilling is cool. And also dicks. Dicks are pretty cool, too. The big downside of lobsters is their lack of dicks.

want to shout out map for that great list of works to read earlier in the thread

is that US grilling or UK grilling? cos not sure cheese on toast is alpha masculine

And also dicks. Dicks are pretty cool, too

i'm not trying to do a "gotcha!" thing, just trying to gently correct, but dicks aren't essentially masculine

i agree they can be pretty cool

but then i guess none of the listed good traits of masculinity here are essentially masculine so nm

jp reads his own writing, realizes how badly his thatcher paraphrase went, cries
https://www.facebook.com/realchillerwhale/videos/10155170272417257

Is he in a goddamn bathrobe

He was on Start the Week on Monday. Steeling myself to listen. Lawrence Wright was also on; hoping he might provide some resistance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b2gsct

A pretty good book review/excoriation from a conservative Catholic professor:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/book-review-jordan-petersons-12-rules-for-life-78542

so this dude's book is like The Secret for people who claim everything they do is governed by "logic," right?

And who grab terminology from Heidegger

ideotv did a podcast on 12 rules
http://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/2018/05/13/106-12-rules-for-life-an-antidote-to-chaos/

A pretty good book review/excoriation from a conservative Catholic professor:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/book-review-jordan-petersons-12-rules-for-life-78542

― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:13 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is beautiful