ok lets all shit our pants to something new: post 2005 horror film thread

so the Nazi puppets are the good guys?

Go figure but I think they are bad.

Something about the whole Full Moon thing makes me...uncomfortable. I don't know that I've ever actually seen one of their movies, but I've seen enough clips and trailers to have some strong suspicions about their sociopolitical views.

Their 2013 feature Ooga Booga, for instance (probably do not search for this at work).

I watched the trailer and immediately regretted it

Crazy that a) It's actually a spinoff of a previous movie made by the same director, DOLL GRAVEYARD and b) it predates the Michael Brown shooting, and is not a reacton to it

proudly and aggressively not PC

If anyone connected with the movie described it that way, then they can get fucked forever.

I often find myself wondering how prevalent strains of crypto-fascism/-racism are in the horror community.

(Based on the Ooga Booga trailer, I'm fairly comfortable dropping the 'crypto' altogether on that one.)

lol, here's Bone Tomahawk/Puppet Master dude's other upcoming, non-horror, film.

Two policemen, one an old-timer (Mel Gibson), the other his volatile younger partner (Vince Vaughn), who find themselves suspended when a video of their strong-arm tactics become the media's cause du jour. Low on cash and with no other options, these two embittered soldiers descend into the criminal underworld to gain their just due, but instead find far more than they wanted awaiting them in the shadows.[1]

wait so there were already three Nazi Puppet Master movies, and Zahler's writing an alternate universe reboot. huh

Dragged Across Concrete sounds pretty right-wing, but so did Brawl in Cell Block 99 and it was just more wacky and violent than actually political. Funny that he's reusing almost the entire cast, including Jennifer Carpenter, Don Johnson and Udo Kier

tbf if i was a director i'd cast udo kier in every movie i made

Yeah, I was wondering one day if I should check out the Puppet Master movies and I noticed the arguable overemployment of Nazis in a series of movies about murderous puppets and I thought, y'know, maybe I don't really need to check out the Puppet Master movies.

They are pretty bad movies but I still find the puppets lovable. Anything past Pupper Master 5 (I might make exception to Curse of the Puppet Master if I re-watched it) was the worst kind of bad.

I hope the reboot is good.

Anyone else see The Housemaid?

I thought the (French-Canadian) Ravenous on Netflix was dull as dirt. Zombie movie, but not at all scary. Bits of humor, but not enough to make it a comedy. Some weirdness to make me think maybe more was going on but not enough to make me think. Just slow going, with characters inexplicably not taking their situation seriously enough to generate any suspense. Looks OK, but it felt like a HD camera was doing the heavy lifting for a super low budget. Oh well.

you guyssssssssssssssssss
i just saw "It Follows"
and not to get TMI but i made the (humbly) ingenuous decision to watch this after i got 2 shots of penicillin for a "gay male" issue and...
it was THE BEST

The last two posts both otm

xp lol amazing

got around to Raw last night. very good, subverts expectations nicely and agree w dog latin upthread that the gore/scares are v much earned and well-grounded in the plot + characters. It reminded me of Parents, which is a very different kind of film (partially because it's v American), but had a similar fatalistic adulthood = cannibalism theme, framed as a bildungsroman.

had no idea the score was by the same guy as A Field In England. one to watch for, that guy.

Has anyone else seen "I Remember You"? More a mystery / ghost story than horror, with some beautiful visuals of Iceland, and decent acting. The ending left me puzzled for one character's motivation, so now reading the book (by Yrsa Sigurdardottir) to get clarification. Already getting some good backstory on the characters, which is helping, though I'm wondering if they have similar conclusions.

Raw was scored by Jim Williams? Is there a soundtrack release?

stuff like Raw is always refreshing to me, reminding me why horror's one of my favorite genres, just so many ideas/issues dealt with in interesting ways

JIM WILLIAMS
the most difficult man to google when A Field in England came out and I was obsessed with the score
he really gets it

Colin Stetson apparently did the score for Hereditary, which comes out this weekend iirc
This is a trend I can support with genuine enthusiasm

yeah trying to research our man jim is basically impossible

who is colin stetson?

cool looping sax player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJHr2DlRog8

ooh neat thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek1ePFp-nBI

Looks good. Looks like a mix of the first one + H20. I mean, they've told this story so many times, but I guess I have high expectations? Trailer is menacing enough.

so is this like the Superman Returns of the Halloween series, where they just pretend most of the sequels didn't happen (but some did?)

I think it pretends that everything after the first one - all the sequels and reboots - never happened.

When can we talk about Hereditary?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!

I saw it last night. Haven't quite stopped thinking about it since. Toni Collette was amazing. I understood the plot on a surface level but wonder what it really ~means~, esp the song that played during the closing credits. Extremely incongruous and was a powerful emotional catalyst. I would see this movie again!

The score was, as predicted, well done.

I am going to try and see it next week. Whenever a movie is presented as the scariest thing ever, it is usually a boilerplate jump-scare movie like A Quiet Place, or a really well-made and acted film that is not terribly scary, like The Babadook. From what little I know about it this seems more like the latter, a psychologically scary art film, something to think about, usually about grief.

it's not scary -- it's intense (more so for some people than others) and it leaves a long-lingering creep that suffuses daily activities with ominous vibes. i wouldn't say "scary" tbh

Hereditary is good stuff. Not perfect, for sure, not all the details quite fit together, but easily really good. Go see it.
It's closer to the The Babadook, but significantly better crafted imo.

A couple of shots/sequences definitely bordered on scary. All of it in the last half-hour.

It's definitely in that VVitch / Babadook zone but not *quite* as good as either (though significantly better than a lot of other recent horror flicks). I'd have lopped off 15-20 minutes.

OBLIQUE SPOILERS

While there's obviously still subtext to be drawn and all that, I actually appreciated that at a certain point it's like, no, this is why shit's going down and it's not a metaphor lol

bummer that it's not as good as those others, it's been preceded by such high praise

It's still pretty good! (Though I'm not surprised audiences hate it.)

this is why shit's going down and it's not a metaphor lol

idk, i still think it's a metaphor -- it was comforting to movie viewers to know [spoiler about the certain point] because it got them through the harrowing nature of the situation, but i don't think of it as "a story" as much as a distillation of the horrors of heredity, which we all grapple with to some degree
i certainly felt massive lingering horror as i looked at boxes of personal/family ephemera the morning after i saw it

like A Quiet Place was family-centered horror of a narrow scope with one family and clear monsters; Hereditary seemed to be a more all-encompassing look at the horror of family and things that are hereditary

...or just a witch story with bonus family horror content
whichever you prefer

My wife has had multiple friends call it a hot mess, which surprised me.

idk people are going to recoil at what disturbs them, and there were plenty of disturbing ideas and images in this movie

recoil *from rather

I had a suspicion this was less "scary" than it was "intense" (or some other more psychological equivalent).

people in my theater were complaining about the ending on the way out but i think the last 10-20 minutes are what take it from very good to best horror film i've seen in a long time.

(vague spoilers follow)

while i see where they're coming from it's annoying when people bring up the horror respectability politics angle of "oh, it's really a kitchen table family drama disguised as a horror film" and i think the fact that they really Went There with the ending is so great, you CAN have a brilliantly acted and shot story about family and heredity and grief that also has an insanely metal climax

oh yeah -- it's not disguised as a horror film, it is for sure a horror film

i think the fact that they really Went There with the ending is so great, you CAN have a brilliantly acted and shot story about family and heredity and grief that also has an insanely metal climax
agree, otm

ha, yes, so metal! i liked that too.

the first half is intense/upsetting, the (better) second half is scary

Yeah I didn't find the Peter character to be reliable at all so the whole metal ending functions very well with the subtext of the film.

honestly the movie should probably get its own thread - other recent horror flicks of note have

I don't watch much horror lately, haven't seen Babadook, Witch, Quiet Place, etc., but went to Hereditary with my aspiring filmmaker son last night and we were both very impressed. Certainly not "scariest thing ever" but also certainly not "a hot mess" either. Many scenes will linger with me a long time.