Vince Staples thread

watched vince's first weekend coachella set and it was great

as a bonus, he gave us this interview
http://www.vulture.com/2018/04/vince-staples-calls-out-r-kelly-during-coachella-interview.html

new album out tonight apparently

prediction: worse than the last one

nah i have high hopes, kenny beats production is a good sign

I like the album cover

last one felt like a misstep rather than a falling off, at least i hope i'm right.

I like the last one a lot.

didn't hate it but none of it was as indelible as most of Summertime '06

apparently this new one is more of a stopgap / EP type deal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM!

no static at alllll

"Fun!" features additional vocals by E-40

fuck yeah

they already collabed on a (kinda irritating, tbh) song earlier this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iWJT9iUZKA

I don't really know Kenny Beats but I love that VS is sticking with a single producer (or very few) per record, I trust his aesthetic sense.

xp yeah the new one was a bit staid, 40 on a staples song a much more exciting prospect to me atm

im interested in hearing what Kenny has cooked up for Vince, he's a versatile guy who can work in many modes. He's all over the Rico Nasty album, he's done things for TDE, he's capable of doing dirty south things for guys like Key! and YoungBoy. Hard to pin down.

the same guy who made this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D4happ4TQU

made this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWQFpLuOzkY

and this (gonna stop spamming a single artist thread with unrelated embeds now): https://youtu.be/VvsYa9hcFH0

listening now, very good so far. a lot more dynamic, less imposing than big fish theory

beats are great

as far as sub 25 minute 2018 rap albums go: Vince >>> Pusha

New album????

it's just ok, imo

same but i need to give it another listen

seemed a little dispiriting in a way
i was excited because i generally love kenny beats

"dispiriting" has been my general feeling re his last few releases. I don't detect a lot of enjoyment.

ever since he started spouting landlord shit about art his music went bad tbh

landlord shit?

I like this album a lot

Gave this a cursory listen. Beats sound like trap by numbers and he sounds like he's rapping while looking at his phone. But I didn't hate it, will give it more of a chance.

Kenny Beats seems like a very nice guy who mostly makes very boring beats. (Except for The Cave episode w/ Freddie Gibbs but that's down to the Lil Sko sample.)

Really want him to do another album with out there production (for modern rap standards) like on BFT. Really wasn't impressed with the new album besides maybe the first track

This album (Ramona Park Broke My Heart) is really great huh

I like it though I put on Summertime 06 the other day and I forgot how much energy he used to bring. His recent stuff is good but so much more muted.

otm

Everything he's done since Summertime 06 has been a disappointment, of different kids. The tinge of anger that made him fascinating is mostly gone, and his beats are far less interesting.

i like the new album a lot, and respect how he's changed as an artist, but that hell can wait-summertime 06-prima donna era had something special, which he's lost.

xp idk i think the beats on the new one are very well done, if unflashy, especially the dj dahi joints - "dj quik" and "papercuts"

The most interesting things he’s done since Summertime ‘06 are press interviews.

I give every one of these albums (or EPs, or “projects”) a shake. And every time I just can’t and don’t know why I hang in there.

Actually, the 2016 Prima Donna ep is the most concentrated thing he's ever released, and the Andre 3000 appearance is his best in god knows how many years.

why is everyone pretending that big fish theory was bad

I like Big Fish Theory — it’s my son’s favorite Vince Staples album, it has a following. The new one sounded good when he put it on in the car the other day, I haven’t yet given it a full listen. I agree overall that Summertime 06 is his best, I put that on the other week and even the tracks I’d forgotten were good.

the new one is fine and is a fair improvement from the last two which were very slight, but it's not really anything to get excited about like he once was capable of

feels like the tone of each progressive release just gets mellower

new show on netflix & he drew inspiration from roy andersson -

We take a lot of inspiration in Roy Andersson, one of my favorite filmmakers. In his film “A Pigeon Sat on a Branch Reflecting on Existence,” he has this shot in this restaurant or a cafeteria, where a lot of the people are separated by the pillars and just entering and exiting a frame. Things that are happening in the distance and things that are happening closer to camera, everything matters in the shot, especially when you stay within a wide. So I think operating within a wide sometimes allows you to bring subtle details and nuances to the shot, and the disposition of the people within the bank can speak to their relationships, speak to their experience.

Thanks for reminding me - I want to check this out.

(Sadly the most excited I’ve been about Staples in a good long while)

Binged the show this weekend. The easy read is Atlanta-lite. What am I missing? Been into him since Shyne Coldchain but this just didn’t land. I hope there’s another season.