The Doors: Classic or Dud?

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I was listening to Mazzy Star last night and thought about The Doors. They get into a sweet kind of "The End" zone occasionally.

brimstead, Saturday, 21 April 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link

Also as far as denmore swinging, I wanna tell you about Texas radio and the big beat

brimstead, Saturday, 21 April 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

i was talking to a friend the other day about how i like doors knockoffs better than i like the doors themselves. your faves?

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, 21 April 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

There's a song I remember from an old psych comp called "The Black Door" by the Loose Enz that's a really obvious Doors knockoff, but I don't know. Mostly, the Doors strike me as being pretty singular.

timellison, Saturday, 21 April 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link

Alice Cooper, "Blue Turk"

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 April 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link

xp re: Mazzy, 'Ghost Highway' feel like a Doors homage to me.

campreverb, Saturday, 21 April 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link

Stranglers, "Walk On By", duh.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 April 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link

that mazzy star song sounds more like "idiot joy showland" than the doors!

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, 21 April 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link

I can't stand these fuckers.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 April 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

That’s like the one Doors song I like!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 23 April 2018 02:15 (six years ago) link

Doors rule
Ride the snake
The West is the best

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2018 03:36 (six years ago) link

i like the Doors generally but I dont like Touch Me

it feels too slobbery

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 April 2018 03:41 (six years ago) link

Father
“Yes son?”
I’ve left you two comp tickets at the Whisky, tell the door guy you’re on “Jim’s list”; feel free to bring mom

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 23 April 2018 03:48 (six years ago) link

"Touch Me" is awesome, great vocal, Alfred is full of it.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2018 08:36 (six years ago) link

I first heard this song when a girl put it on a mixtape for me in high school. I eventually got the message she was sending, but the young ilxor in me couldn't get over how contemptibly cheesy it was. What was this Butt Bacharach shit?

how's life, Monday, 23 April 2018 10:25 (six years ago) link

Now, as a mature ILXor, you accept cheese.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2018 10:31 (six years ago) link

ricotta, Stilton, sure

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 April 2018 10:32 (six years ago) link

Morrison, Krieger...

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Monday, 23 April 2018 10:35 (six years ago) link

oh ffs, "butt Bacharach" was autocorrect.

how's life, Monday, 23 April 2018 11:04 (six years ago) link

Beyond the great vocal, “Touch Me” has a genuinely groovy instrumental breakdown...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 23 April 2018 12:28 (six years ago) link

Peace Frog grooves

kornrulez6969, Monday, 23 April 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link

This is funny and accurate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBRYsAfchkY

dinnerboat, Monday, 23 April 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

^^^ I hadn't seen that before! Spot on, even looks like Manzarek back there.

i was talking to a friend the other day about how i like doors knockoffs better than i like the doors themselves. your faves?

― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, April 21, 2018 1:34 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Do you know Phantom's Divine Comedy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0wijDxY3rk

hair-grabbing ear-grabbing fetishist squaredance caller (Dan Peterson), Monday, 23 April 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

touch me feels like jim projecting into the future envisioning vegas elvis

so yeah pretty awesome

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link

Every time this thread gets bumped I fear that Jim has died

calstars, Monday, 23 April 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

Jim cannot die, in the moments prior to the death of "body", more aptly described as his terrestrial flesh vehicle, his soul BREAKS ON THROUGH to his next host shell.

Best Band Ever.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 23 April 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link

"Touch Me" is great. So sleazy.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 23 April 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

Touch Me is a little like one of those corny Strokes songs (in a good way).

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 23 April 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link

Every time this thread gets bumped I fear that Jim has died

― calstars, Monday, April 23, 2018 10:37 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://meetsobsession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Do-you-believe-in-the-end-mash-up.jpg

We found a finally spot to kick it
Where we can drink liquor and no one bickers over trick shit
A spot where we can smoke in peace, and even though we G's
We still visualize places that we can roll in peace
And in my mind's eye, I see this place the players go and pass it
I got a spot for us all, so we can ball, at thug's mansion

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link

#westside
#outlawz

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link

The Doors have a surprisingly large amount of Vegas/crooner songs. Touch Me is probably the most famous. On some others, notably Wishful Sinful on The Soft Parade, you can hear the disgust in his voice.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 23 April 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link

haha alfred i loved your piece

marcos, Monday, 23 April 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

i love the doors but i hate "touch me"

marcos, Monday, 23 April 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

but then i just read ums post about foreshadowing elvis in vegas <3

marcos, Monday, 23 April 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

now im not sure

marcos, Monday, 23 April 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

Xp lol

calstars, Monday, 23 April 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

man late period doors live albums are INSANE

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, January 23, 2012 12:13 PM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes!

marcos, Monday, 23 April 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link

"Yes the River Knows" always felt pretty Vegas crooner-y.

"Touch Me" is pretty rad. "i'm gonna love you til the heavens stop the rain" is such a sweet middle 8. and that live video, where Jim's hair is the prettiest in the world. dude could have gone on to be in soap operas.

i have lot of love for the "Soft Parade" album as a whole. i prefer the psychedelic vegas lounge to the more straight faced blues cocktail lounge of the last records.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

"Soft Parade" is a crazy record, I generally love it even though I wouldn't begrudge anyone who hates it. "Runnin' Blue" would be my favorite Doors song if it didn't have the embarrassing faux-hillbilly Robbie break downs. "Tell All the People" is great, the title track is insane.

Also funny to think immediately after SP they were considered basically washed up, they'd been a band for barely 4 yrs, it was only 2 yrs since the debut. The cliched "return to their roots" comeback record is out less than 8 months later.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 23 April 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link

I like the Doors. I accept them as schlockmeisters, pseudo-Latinized, pseudo-blues, just like Don Van Vliet or Dr. John. But pop in a way neither of those artists could exactly muster. I dig their minimalist style and I get off on the thinness of their sound. "Riders on the Storm" is really the one I relate to the most. They were better when they laid back. Alfred Soto did a takedown of "Touch Me" that makes interesting points about how "Touch Me" and the ricky-ticky schlock-blues-pop of the Kinks' Something Else and the Stones' Between the Buttons, how "Touch Me" (I think) is a more Vegas-ized version of that. Not sure I totally get his point, but it's worth considering...

eddhurt, Monday, 23 April 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

"Tell All the People" is great

yes! and very cultish too. "Come on, take me by the hand, gonna bury all our troubles in the sand"

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

funny to think immediately after SP they were considered basically washed up

By how many, I wonder. Certainly, some critics, but...Every album they made went top ten and "Touch Me" was one of their three top ten singles.

timellison, Monday, 23 April 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link

"not to touch the earth" is still ahead of its time. nothing left to do but run run run. let's run

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 23 April 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link

haha, I was just about to post my love for 'not to touch the earth'.
love 'waiting for the sun'

campreverb, Monday, 23 April 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link

waiting for the sun is def the most underrated album

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

"hello, i love you" is an all-time first jam

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 23 April 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link

Very little Doors music strikes me as "psuedo-Latinized" or "psuedo-blues."

timellison, Monday, 23 April 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

Came across this recent video a few weeks ago with Robbie Kreiger which gets into the origins of some of the tunes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p24lgQv1r8w

"They were better when they laid back."

'The Crystal Ship' is my favorite Doors song. I need to try and put together a chill out Doors CDR. That section of 'Cars Hiss by my Window' and are a couple of deep tracks that fit that feel too. Love how 'Cars Hiss by my Window' segues into 'LA Woman'.

earlnash, Monday, 23 April 2018 21:32 (six years ago) link

I mean, why not judge them as a rock band? A genre in which they were quite advanced.

timellison, Monday, 23 April 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

"one to five" sounds like ACTUAL BLOOD is being shed

brimstead, Monday, 23 April 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link


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