Who will win the Palme at Cannes? [2018 edition]

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Fremaux: Lars, I think your film is better suited for out of competition

Lars Von Trier: I refuse. My film is great. It's worthy of competing for the Palme.

Fremaux: There are like 5 women on the jury and one of them is Ava Duvernay

Lars Von Trier: Alright out of comp it is

— C.J. Prince (@cj_prin) April 18, 2018

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 12:38 (six years ago) link

Added to the official competiton are Knife + Heart from Yann Gonzalez and starring Vanessa Paradis, Akya by Kazak director Sergey Dvortsevoy, and The Wild Pear Tree by former Palme winner (and a noted absence from the first lineup announcement) Nuri Bilge Ceylan.

Gilliam will close.

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 12:39 (six years ago) link

OK, the previous film from the brother of M83 looks nuts.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2018 12:56 (six years ago) link

Around midnight, a young couple and their transvestite maid prepare for an orgy. Their guests will be The Slut, The Star, The Stud and The Teen.

uhhhhhhh

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 12:58 (six years ago) link

Fuck Lars von trier

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Thursday, 19 April 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

Jeffrey Wells regrets booking his trip bcz there isn't enough Bennett Miller-level fare

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link

LVT is such a shithead but I confess I like almost all of his movies

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link

Me too Simon, just bothered by the Bjork stuff

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

I adore melancholia

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

To be fair, those allegations could have been about any of the Danish director she worked with.

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link

what?

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

It's a gag, son (cause she didn't use trier's name)

The Rachel Supremacy (wins), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

ahh

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link

Lars von Trier is one of the most important filmmakers of the last fifty years, and his aesthetic achievements are perpetually underrated. But it can't really be separated from his shitheadedness, in one way his whole filmography is him dealing with the fact that he is a shithead. And at least it seems as if he really has tried to deal with it, instead of the fake self awareness of a shithead like Woody Allen.

Frederik B, Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link

Yeah I agree with that. Despite all his empty (though occasionally funny) public provocations, his films strike me as pretty earnest for the most part.

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

Yet so masochistic. I’ll watch something like Breaking the Waves (which even among ppl that hate him is generally well regarded, maybe more than any other of his films?) and it just seems like an exercise in torturing his characters & his audience for its own sake. I am a fan though. At least he’s interesting.

flappy bird, Thursday, 19 April 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link

He does a lot of really earnest interviews as well, though they're perhaps rarely translated. The whole nazi-thing developed from a pretty interesting interview he gave about romantic aesthetics. The Dogme manifesto had a lot of political thoughts before the easy-to-understand rules. He runs his mouth, though.

I also think he suffers from a few of his most earnest films being among his least well known. Like Epidemic, where Lars himself plays an idealistic doctor who ends up spreading the very disease he was trying to research. Or the Boss of it All, which is totally just about filmmaking and the directors responsibility.

Frederik B, Thursday, 19 April 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

On the same page as you Fred but worried that my love of his work might make me ignore genuinely harmful shit in his life

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

Like it's not clear but he could well be genuinely guilty of awful behaviour

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link

I don't know, I think most of his sins are well known, and I don't think it's anything like the Dylan Farrow situation, where the grotesque adoration of Woody Allen has had a harmful impact. I mean, Diane Keaton sang the Girl Scout song in his honor at the 2014 Golden Globes...

Frederik B, Thursday, 19 April 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Lars von Trier is one of the most important filmmakers of the last fifty years

that's it, lead with the lolz

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 5 May 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

I really liked The Wonders, will be interested to hear what Rohrwacher's new film is like

Dan S, Saturday, 5 May 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link

Well, this site (linked in the Criterion post) gives it the best odds to win the Palme. Based on who knows.

https://www.jigsawlounge.co.uk/film/reviews/cannes2018/

Uppercase (Eric H.), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link

Neil Young is great, and he managed to predict Nuri Bilge Ceylan correctly that one time. But no, a woman is not going to be allowed to win at Cannes, anyone think Denis Villeneuve will agree to that? He made a film about a misogynistic mass murder that ended with a severely wounded woman telling the male protagonist 'it's not your fault'.

Frederik B, Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link

Lmao I was an extra in that but have never seen it

Simon H., Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link

Lol. It was kinda always shit, but time has NOT been kind to it.

Frederik B, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link

not sure about likelihoods, but Lazzaro Felice looks super ambitious to me

I also loved Secret Sunshine and Poetry, so I'm looking forward to Lee's new film Burning

Dan S, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

Jia or Farhadi or Hamaguchi or GTFO

Uppercase (Eric H.), Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link

Panahi > Farhadi and it's not even close.

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 May 2018 08:31 (six years ago) link

Re Lars earnestness - nymphomaniac is about as tone deaf as it gets - it’s 3 hours too long

Peak redundacy (Ross), Sunday, 6 May 2018 08:42 (six years ago) link

Nah, it's a flawed masterpiece

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 May 2018 09:01 (six years ago) link

it works v well as a culminating work, which has me worried for the new one tbh

Simon H., Sunday, 6 May 2018 12:34 (six years ago) link

Jia or Farhadi or Hamaguchi or Panahi or GTFO

Uppercase (Eric H.), Sunday, 6 May 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

I've now seen three movies by Christophe Honoré, and to my surprise two of them turned out to be musicals! I'm wondering if his new one is too

Ehrlich said he thought that Farhadi's Everybody Knows was his best since A Separation

Dan S, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link

Faint praise

Frederik B, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 07:12 (six years ago) link

Convinced.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 08:28 (six years ago) link

Farhadi is one of those directors, like Fatih Akin and - sad to say because I used to like him a lot - Christian Mungiu, where whatever aesthetic ideas they had at one point has become calcified and they're basically just great scripts. It's doubly sad because they're both taking up space that could go to good image-makers, but we're sorta also missing out on some very good novelists.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 09:54 (six years ago) link

Most directors -- the good ones anyway -- have a pretty strict set of aesthetic ideas and things they think about, either in the content of their scripts, their politics and how some of these are transmitted visually. So no Mungiu isn't taking up space, the execution is still there w/ Graduation

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 May 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link

Nah, it's crap.

Frederik B, Friday, 11 May 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

So far the competition seems a bit so-so. The Godard sounds predictably great, but I'm not that excited by the rest. The Serebrennikov turns out to be a biopic about Viktor Tsoi from the Russian band Kino, but it sounds quite pedestrian and way too pleasant for it's subject. The 8 hour Wang Bing about Chinese death camps sounds absolutely amazing, on the other hand.

Frederik B, Friday, 11 May 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link

im not sure I've the fortitude for an 8 hour documentary about death camps in the gobi desert

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 May 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

idk this could be great but honestly the prospect of sitting through a pessimistic feature-length screed writing off the future from the POV of an old-ass dude sounds like torture to me sorry

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/the-image-book-review-jean-luc-godard-cannes-1201963343/

Simon H., Friday, 11 May 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link

I'd honestly much rather have full on fatalism than the faux concerned cynicism of someone like Bigelow or Villeneuve. And politically, it can't really be any stupider than his Dziga Vertov films, no? More Godardian montage-essay is a-ok with me. This new short was good as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO5Y6wlPn5k
It's an attack on Macron, who sent riot forces to handle protesters at the Notre-Dame-des-Landes (NDDL) designating it a Zone a Defendre (ZAD) or 'defence zone'. Or at least I think it is.

Frederik B, Friday, 11 May 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link

i am very excited about this film

ASH IS PUREST WHITE: perhaps the finest “stop snitching” film to ever come out of China. Makes a clean companion with MMD in its elliptical timeline, its charting of wide scale change, and its delightful disco dancing.

— Charles Bramesco (@intothecrevasse) May 11, 2018

devvvine, Friday, 11 May 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

now THAT I can rock with

Simon H., Friday, 11 May 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

xpost Friends in the know have told me the Godard short is a fake :/

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 11 May 2018 23:24 (six years ago) link

haven't seen any of these

flopson, Friday, 11 May 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link

after what Jeff Wells wrote about the Honore film (he walked out of it cuz it was "cummy") i will probably punch him in the face if i ever see his stupid mug again.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link

hate that motherfucker so much

Simon H., Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:38 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone catch The Wild Goose Lake? I quite liked Diao Yinan's previous film, Black Coal, Thin Ice ... people on here seem to be mixed on Long Day's Journey Into Night but eh, I liked An Elephant Sitting Still which wasn't too popular here either.

etc, Monday, 15 July 2019 05:37 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

Is this the only place to talk about Portrait de la Jeune Fille en Feu? It devastated me. Utterly exquisite. A definite 10/10, for me. Some of the things Sciamma does would seem ridiculous if you read about it (the heart going on fire in the previous attempt at a portrait) but she does it with such style and feeling. The last shot broke me.

Alain the Botton (jed_), Thursday, 12 March 2020 00:59 (four years ago) link

Adele stan 'til I die.

Alain the Botton (jed_), Thursday, 12 March 2020 01:00 (four years ago) link

there is an "arthouse" thread

I was not blown away by it, but Adele Haenel and the cinematography make it

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 March 2020 04:48 (four years ago) link

Also, this was in the 2019 Cannes thread, not the 2018 one.

crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link

Yup. This is where we'll talk about, like, Girls of the Sun, when all of a sudden that gets a release.

Frederik B, Thursday, 12 March 2020 13:03 (four years ago) link

This was a really good slate, in retrospect.

coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 March 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link

I can't stop thinking about this film. It's perfect, imo.

Alain the Botton (jed_), Friday, 13 March 2020 02:24 (four years ago) link

the writing is amazing as well.

-I've never even seen her smile
-have you tried being funny?

Alain the Botton (jed_), Friday, 13 March 2020 02:26 (four years ago) link

one of the most amazing details is the saliva streams during the kisses.

Alain the Botton (jed_), Friday, 13 March 2020 02:37 (four years ago) link

It's just such an accomplished film from start to finish.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 March 2020 09:30 (four years ago) link

excellent movie but it did make me lol that they're on a remote island in the 18th century and still everyone, including the maid, is immaculately clean and groomed in every single scene

na (NA), Friday, 13 March 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link

Someone lock this thread already.

coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Friday, 13 March 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link


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