I like that side A/side B is readily apparent from the sequencing.
― valorous wokelord (silby), Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link
Totally. I love the slower songs near the end. The albums crammed with so many sonic details that there’s always something new and to hear. Usually the overly compressed production wouldn’t be my thing but it works here. Killer Floyd reference on “pills”
― after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link
the new version of Slow Disco she just put out rules, I like it more than anything from the album
― ufo, Thursday, 31 May 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
It’s great
― Ross, Thursday, 31 May 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
I hope she puts out the solo piano/voice version of this record she supposedly has.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
The acoustic performance linked above is wicked
― Ross, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
She’s playing alongside Florence and chvrches at a festival here
― Ross, Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
Fast Slow Disco really deserves to be her first number one single. I'm obsessed with it right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNm0b2SCXxY
― kitchen person, Friday, 22 June 2018 05:39 (five years ago) link
Damn, that's a great song.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 22 June 2018 06:28 (five years ago) link
yeah, that's a v cool "alternate version"
apparently co-written with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Williams_(singer)
― niels, Friday, 22 June 2018 09:10 (five years ago) link
Gorgeous song
― mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link
dece, album version's better
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 June 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
Slow Disco became my favourite song on the album. I'm not sure I can pick between that and the remix. They're both so perfect in different ways. Is there any way this can actually be a hit for her? Maybe not a number one single (as it deserves), but could it at least be her Dancing On My Own?
― kitchen person, Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link
that "don't it beat a slow dance to death?" melody at the end is definitely lifted from somewhere.
― gospodin simmel, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:01 (five years ago) link
or maybe just stuck with me from the album version so nvm. awesome either way.
― gospodin simmel, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:02 (five years ago) link
I love this version of the song but I'm really surprised at how early 2000s NME band the artwork is (particularly bearing in mind the considered aesthetic of the rest of Annie's ouevre).
https://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2018/06/fast-slow-disco-1527825993-640x640.jpeg
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 06:35 (five years ago) link
Upon absorbing Strange Mercy more I think it's gotta be Clark's best record. Songs like Cheerleader sing to be the template for the feel of a lot of the tracks, rhythm wise and even thematically there seems to be references to surgeon in a later song (also surgeon of course starts with the Brazil theme as well). MASSEDUCTION on the other hand has maximal production and not as much subtlety as the former record, sort of like if the whole record was played on a key chain guitar shooting off into the stratosphere, the energy is also far more anxiety ridden. Dunno, the production kind of gets in the way on the latest. Newest single takes the electronic tinged arrangements of Mass and dulls the gnarled edges a bit more, so perhaps it will be more successful. Not that Cruel wasn't a stand out single for instance but the newest single is less esoteric
― Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
*seem not sing
― Garden variety uncouth (Ross), Sunday, 1 July 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
I'd be interested to see an albums poll for her. I'm guessing Strange Mercy would win, but I feel like it would be close.
― kitchen person, Monday, 2 July 2018 00:23 (five years ago) link
what is happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBuSKj3XNu8
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
had me wtf'ing for a minute but I see it's "just" a remix
she def gave it a st vincent feel
― niels, Friday, 3 August 2018 07:47 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/QG5OgcD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oxbiVeY.jpg
MassEducation:
01 Slow Disco02 Savior03 Masseduction04 Sugarboy05 Fear the Future06 Smoking Section07 Los Ageless08 New York09 Young Lover10 Happy Birthday, Johnny11 Pills12 Hang on Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yLmAwGpPV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqNvRMAKj-c
Out next week.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link
Sweet! Glad she followed thru and released it. Been waiting for this ever since she mentioned it during promo last year.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
lol at people wondering why she re-arranged the tracklisting - I mean hang on me was such a massive downer of an opening track that it appearing last totally makes sense somehow to me here. Additionally, restructuring the order is a good way of making this sound even more fresh than just a simple re-tooling. excited
― montoya (Ross), Saturday, 6 October 2018 02:17 (five years ago) link
based on those two tracks, wondering if this is gonna be a spared-back collection like her tiny desk acoustic set? i mean that might be kind of cool but i hope it's not just that uniform
― montoya (Ross), Saturday, 6 October 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link
It's all piano. Doveman's piano playing is remarkable. Works on pretty much every track.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 14 October 2018 09:15 (five years ago) link
This is such a treat if you liked Masseduction
― thomasintrouble, Sunday, 14 October 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
Great live performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdmSRfbjQlY
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
given that i will not hear this for some time, can anyone give me more idea what it sounds like
i take it there is pedal steel and piano on every song (as mentioned) but how different are the songs to the originals, tempo wise, arrangement wise etc
― Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
finally listening to the piano version, EXCELLENT! 💯
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link
this is a nice little video, the joke around 0:41 sure to please an ilxor or two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VW3TWNCnWE
― niels, Saturday, 1 December 2018 10:05 (five years ago) link
http://molly-young.com/stvincent.html
― Frozen CD, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link
"I walked home thinking about how unusual it is to experience sustained dislike as an adult. When you're a kid and you have no control over your time, you're constantly forced to be with people (kids, mainly)who find you lame and annoying, which is painful. The primary perk of being an adult is that you have the agency to avoid these situations. Until you don't."
Surely Molly Young must see the metonymy of writing something like this, both the sentence in particular and the sum post.
Clark's job description: learn guitar, learn to sing. Write songs, research gear, stay on top of current trends. Perform excellent shows and record excellent albums. Produce work for self and for others.
Clark's actual job description: look excellent at all times. Navigate public social and romantic relationships. Navigate inquiry regarding sexuality and private life. Be amenable and gracious in the face of intrusion, either by consumers of your work, or by interviewers who believe they are entitled to feeling "not disliked" upon first/second meeting.
It always amazes me when arts journalists, either by turning author (and subjecting their own work to the critical gaze), or by incidents such as this, suddenly experience what content-creators have to experience every second of every day
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
I'm not a journalist, so I don't know how typical this experience is or what expectations they go in with. But the way I see it, they are doing a job that is meant to be mutually beneficial for the artist and publication. Having a base level of courtesy towards someone who is helping to facilitate this service to promote your music isn't a lot to ask for.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link
2 years ago there was a piece in the New Yorker (similar scenario, journo tags along while SV does summat else) so the writer here must have been wise to what the score was. She's a bit of a wind up merchant is about the size of it as far as i can tell. Also she's not above apologising if she thinks she got something wrong;
'The next morning, my phone buzzes. Clark’s messaged me on Twitter. “Dude!” she says, “I’m sorry I was a cock.” She explains that she was exhausted, “which is not an excuse”, but that she’d felt especially defensive because she’d been getting negative tweets about the show all day, and had thought my comments were an attempt to go for the jugular. “I really misread the interaction,” she says, “and have been feeling horribly guilty ever since. I thought you were just there to tell me my show sucked and I got real defensive and yeah, it went downhill from there.”'
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/music-theatre/2017/11/it-s-cool-some-people-hate-my-show-st-vincent-fan-backlash-and-chinese
― piscesx, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link
fgti otm
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link
I have no idea why any writer would admit to this
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
right
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
St. Vincent Has a Cold (Shoulder)
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
There are plenty enough Annie Clark-hates-interviews stories going around that at this point any halfway competent writer should know that going in.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
these are both right:
they are doing a job that is meant to be mutually beneficial for the artist and publication. Having a base level of courtesy towards someone who is helping to facilitate this service to promote your music isn't a lot to ask for.
that said, Annie sounds *awful* in that link piscesx posted. :(
― alpine static, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link
awful? really? seems like typical aloof rock star behavior - exactly what one would expect profiling celebrities.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link
I take it you've never actually done it, then. Most musicians are very nice and polite and welcoming in an interview context. They understand that it's a transaction, and they make it as pleasant as possible. Ones who've had decades-long careers are particularly so - I've never interviewed him myself, but I've heard that, for example, Robert Plant is a fantastic person to talk to. I always heard the same thing about David Bowie. Rob Halford of Judas Priest is one of the nicest people you could ever spend an hour with - he listens, thinks about your questions, and answers in paragraphs. Even people whose art is sometimes off-putting or alienating are great in interviews - I had a fucking blast talking to Blixa Bargeld of Einstürzende Neubauten.
Clark, on the other hand, comes off like someone who really dislikes doing interviews and therefor comes up with ways to short-circuit or "subvert" the process that she probably thinks are really smart and cool, and which I'm sure amuse her greatly, but just wind up making the writer (who's getting paid very little money to be there, and may even be taking time away from a day job to do it) feel uncomfortable and unwelcome. It's a shitty approach to something that is in her job description (if you want to make art for public consumption, you're going to have to talk about that art with journalists), and the fact that she gets such fawning press despite this spoiled-child stuff is baffling to me.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link
Booming post unperson.
I can see fgti's post which makes a lot of sense, but ultimately this isn't about artists having to jump through hoops. I keep coming back to the bit saying 'St. Vincent doesn't need to be in GQ, why did she agree to this in the first place?' Regardless of whether that is because of people surrounding her, it's never a good idea to be unkind to people imo.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:05 (five years ago) link
I have done it. Some people are nice, some are fucking assholes. Comes with the territory.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
there's really so little evidence to suggest Clark is awful there imo, and i mean who knows what's going on with anyone at any given moment. i know that there's an understanding about the give and take with being a public figure and being interviewed, and i understand that a lot of artists are great with interviews and some are definitely not, but i'm not sure it's really an effective way to measure their quality as a human being. it's such an outlier type of experience.
i guess the great part of being an anonymous person like myself is i can meet someone somewhere and have a mildly awkward or lame interaction and they're not going to write about me online. unless i worked at a restaurant and they were a yelper, idk.
― omar little, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
(who's getting paid very little money to be there, and may even be taking time away from a day job to do it)
break out the violins
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link
Of course it comes with the territory. But that doesn't mean shitty behaviour* can't be called out as such. Especially if the person involved agreed to be profiled for GQ. xp
(if said shitty behavior indeed happened, as Omar points out)
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link
xp wow shitty reply, flappy
i've only been interviewed about my art once but i can easily imagine having deep contempt for the entire experience despite it being "part of my job"
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link