Who will win the Palme at Cannes? [2018 edition]

Gave Godard a sentimental vote, thought perhaps the Cannes jury might too.

rooting for Zhangke, and not only cause China hasn't had a win since '93

Which was also China's only Palme ... which it shared with another film.

Another country that's only gotten one Palme so far: Iran.

still haven't seen Mountains May Depart because our local arthouse film club are wankers

gonna have to get a DVD i think

Holding out on voting till I can at least see a trailer, or anything, from Nadine Labaki's film. Though the heart says Panahi.

Excited for new JLG!!

Gave Godard a sentimental vote, thought perhaps the Cannes jury might too.

― Ward Fowler, Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:04 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Last time he showed at Cannes he came with what was perhaps one of the most mindblowing of all his films so wouldn't put it past the old maestro to come with the goods once again.

yeah me too i voted for godard

while i'm here what are some other Godard films that are like EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF / SLOW MOTION? I fucking love that movie but am not excited by the early work. WEEKEND maybe?

Hmmm...none of his films is like the other (to me) but maybe try "Passion"?

If I'm counting right, 8/18 are in the main competition for the first time, and 4 of those are making their first appearances at Cannes. Nobody has won the Palme d’Or before. Only 2 of the directors have won Grand Prix (Rohrwacher once, Garrone twice). And it looks like Yomeddine is AB Shawky’s first feature-length movie!

Yeah, there's a whole lot of new names, and some of them, like Panahi and Hamaguchi, are legitimately exciting! Others seem like typical overhype, and Pawlikowski would be who I'd put my money on if we were guessing who will be booed out. But still. It's also one of the most diverse years in a long time, with seven directors from Asia and one from Africa. So that's good! Otoh, it kinda makes the lack of women even more galling...

Where's Claire Denis?

I've heard a rumour that she dislikes being in Competition, which is why she's so often in the Quinzaine, but I don't know.

ah, that makes sense. it seems her sci-fi film is just about ready to go though.

Also, my own completely unfounded hunch - just based on all the gossip surrounding equivalent figures in the Danish film-world - that an organization with so much gross stuff going on as Cannes, including sexist dress codes, constant photoshopping of women, lack of inclusion and bullshit reasons for lack of inclusion, films by Woody Allen, etc, that there's probably a lot more grossness beneath the surface, and many female French directors just don't want to participate.

Guess who's back, back again

https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Cannes-Is-Ready-to-Welcome-Back-Lars-von-Trier-12840160.php

meanwhile...

The Cannes Film Festival has, for example, been reluctant to place her films in the main competition. Bastards from 2013 played in the Un Certain Regard sidebar. Let the Sunshine In opened down the Croisette at Directors’ Fortnight. No Denis film has competed for the Palme d’Or since Chocolat. (She tells me High Life will not be ready for this year’s event.)

“I take what I am given,” she says. “I am always considering maybe my films are not good enough. Maybe they are boring. Maybe there is something Cannes doesn’t like. I never asked them, by the way. I don’t care.”

On average, how many films get added to the comp lineup after the initial announcement yearly?

between one and three iirc

God, Fremaux is such a sanctimonious prick. This whole 'persona non grata' thing, pretending it's real, while happily programming Polanski and having Woody Allen open the show every third year. The sooner the filmworld is rid of this art-less ass-hole, the better.

Fremaux: Lars, I think your film is better suited for out of competition

Lars Von Trier: I refuse. My film is great. It's worthy of competing for the Palme.

Fremaux: There are like 5 women on the jury and one of them is Ava Duvernay

Lars Von Trier: Alright out of comp it is

— C.J. Prince (@cj_prin) April 18, 2018

Added to the official competiton are Knife + Heart from Yann Gonzalez and starring Vanessa Paradis, Akya by Kazak director Sergey Dvortsevoy, and The Wild Pear Tree by former Palme winner (and a noted absence from the first lineup announcement) Nuri Bilge Ceylan.

Gilliam will close.

OK, the previous film from the brother of M83 looks nuts.

Around midnight, a young couple and their transvestite maid prepare for an orgy. Their guests will be The Slut, The Star, The Stud and The Teen.

uhhhhhhh

Fuck Lars von trier

Jeffrey Wells regrets booking his trip bcz there isn't enough Bennett Miller-level fare

LVT is such a shithead but I confess I like almost all of his movies

Me too Simon, just bothered by the Bjork stuff

I adore melancholia

To be fair, those allegations could have been about any of the Danish director she worked with.

what?

It's a gag, son (cause she didn't use trier's name)

ahh

Lars von Trier is one of the most important filmmakers of the last fifty years, and his aesthetic achievements are perpetually underrated. But it can't really be separated from his shitheadedness, in one way his whole filmography is him dealing with the fact that he is a shithead. And at least it seems as if he really has tried to deal with it, instead of the fake self awareness of a shithead like Woody Allen.

Yeah I agree with that. Despite all his empty (though occasionally funny) public provocations, his films strike me as pretty earnest for the most part.

Yet so masochistic. I’ll watch something like Breaking the Waves (which even among ppl that hate him is generally well regarded, maybe more than any other of his films?) and it just seems like an exercise in torturing his characters & his audience for its own sake. I am a fan though. At least he’s interesting.

He does a lot of really earnest interviews as well, though they're perhaps rarely translated. The whole nazi-thing developed from a pretty interesting interview he gave about romantic aesthetics. The Dogme manifesto had a lot of political thoughts before the easy-to-understand rules. He runs his mouth, though.

I also think he suffers from a few of his most earnest films being among his least well known. Like Epidemic, where Lars himself plays an idealistic doctor who ends up spreading the very disease he was trying to research. Or the Boss of it All, which is totally just about filmmaking and the directors responsibility.

On the same page as you Fred but worried that my love of his work might make me ignore genuinely harmful shit in his life

Like it's not clear but he could well be genuinely guilty of awful behaviour

I don't know, I think most of his sins are well known, and I don't think it's anything like the Dylan Farrow situation, where the grotesque adoration of Woody Allen has had a harmful impact. I mean, Diane Keaton sang the Girl Scout song in his honor at the 2014 Golden Globes...

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5603-the-horse-race-begins

Lars von Trier is one of the most important filmmakers of the last fifty years

that's it, lead with the lolz

I really liked The Wonders, will be interested to hear what Rohrwacher's new film is like

Well, this site (linked in the Criterion post) gives it the best odds to win the Palme. Based on who knows.

https://www.jigsawlounge.co.uk/film/reviews/cannes2018/

Neil Young is great, and he managed to predict Nuri Bilge Ceylan correctly that one time. But no, a woman is not going to be allowed to win at Cannes, anyone think Denis Villeneuve will agree to that? He made a film about a misogynistic mass murder that ended with a severely wounded woman telling the male protagonist 'it's not your fault'.

Lmao I was an extra in that but have never seen it

Lol. It was kinda always shit, but time has NOT been kind to it.

not sure about likelihoods, but Lazzaro Felice looks super ambitious to me

I also loved Secret Sunshine and Poetry, so I'm looking forward to Lee's new film Burning

Jia or Farhadi or Hamaguchi or GTFO

Agreed that we should wait to make the poll until closer to the start of the competition.

The Dead Don’t Die (dir: Jim Jarmusch) – opening film
Atlantique (dir: Mati Diop)
Bacarau (dir: Kleber Mendonça Filho & Juliano Dornelles)
Frankie (dir: Ira Sachs)
A Hidden Life (dir: Terrence Malick)
It Must Be Heaven (dir: Elia Suleiman)
Les Misérables (dir: Ladj Ly)
Little Joe (dir: Jessica Hausner)
Matthias and Maxime (dir: Xavier Dolan)
Oh Mercy! (dir: Arnaud Desplechin)
Parasite (dir: Bong Joon-ho)
Portrait of a Lady on Fire (dir: Céline Sciamma)
Sibyl (dir: Justine Triet)
Sorry We Missed You (dir: Ken Loach)
Pain and Glory (dir: Pedro Almodóvar)
The Traitor (dir: Marco Bellocchio)
La Gomera (dir: Corneliu Porumboiu)
The Wild Goose Lake (dir: Diao Yinan)
The Young Ahmed (dir: Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne)

This slate, even if it ends up making room for Tarantino as everyone expects, lacks a sort of "They've never won the Palme?!" already-canonized candidate a la Jia Zhang-Ke last year. I guess one could place Almodovar in that company, but it's been awhile since he's made anything anyone cares about.

They keep making room for Loach, don't they.

What I mean is, with no Jia or Wong or Hou or Godard to attend to, this slate offers a shot at coronating someone extra fresh and new, et al, which is fun.

the Sciamma sounds dopey as fuck tbh

hopefully instead of tarantino they just add three hong films

yay for mati diop though! liked the short of hers i saw

oh, she was daughter in 35 Rhums! I thought she looked familiar.

Hausner making an SF film = here for it

is the Malick his return to "conventional" narrative or whatever?

supposedly it has an actual script; his only other films in Competition have been Tree of Life and (iirc) Days of Heaven

can it be a return to movies that don't fucking blow

To the Wonder was good! (Still haven't seen Song to Song)

Song to Song is hilariously bad. but I don't like any of his movies besides Days of Heaven (which I'm not crazy about either).

I even liked Knight of Cups, but even I didn't dare to watch Song to Song.

the main competition jury includes 6(!) directors this year - Alejandro Gonzalez Iñárritu, Yorgos Lanthimos, Pawel Pawlikowski, Kelly Reichardt, Alice Rohrwacher and Robin Campillo

the 2018 lineup was criticized as being weak, but in retrospect it seems like it was it was one of the best in a while

I was somewhat perturbed to see Stev Yeun, who was so great in Burning, turn up on one sketch on the gross-out sketch show, I Think You Should Leave on Netflix.

not sure about 2019. the jury selection seems more impressive than the films. agree with Eric that the iconic filmmakers who haven’t been recognized yet category is lacking this year

I don't know if I care that much about iconic directors, but I love that Hausner and Porumboiu, two of the best youngish directors, are there for the first time.

Tarantino and Kechiche added. Think the lineup is complete now. New poll?

Yeah they hit their perv quota

LOL

https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=108896

Anyone catch The Wild Goose Lake? I quite liked Diao Yinan's previous film, Black Coal, Thin Ice ... people on here seem to be mixed on Long Day's Journey Into Night but eh, I liked An Elephant Sitting Still which wasn't too popular here either.

Is this the only place to talk about Portrait de la Jeune Fille en Feu? It devastated me. Utterly exquisite. A definite 10/10, for me. Some of the things Sciamma does would seem ridiculous if you read about it (the heart going on fire in the previous attempt at a portrait) but she does it with such style and feeling. The last shot broke me.

Adele stan 'til I die.

there is an "arthouse" thread

I was not blown away by it, but Adele Haenel and the cinematography make it

Also, this was in the 2019 Cannes thread, not the 2018 one.

Yup. This is where we'll talk about, like, Girls of the Sun, when all of a sudden that gets a release.

This was a really good slate, in retrospect.

I can't stop thinking about this film. It's perfect, imo.

the writing is amazing as well.

-I've never even seen her smile
-have you tried being funny?

one of the most amazing details is the saliva streams during the kisses.

It's just such an accomplished film from start to finish.

excellent movie but it did make me lol that they're on a remote island in the 18th century and still everyone, including the maid, is immaculately clean and groomed in every single scene

Someone lock this thread already.