ah, look, this isn't even a hard argument for a socialist revolutionary to make. the problem is that the existing bureaucracies are ideologically in service of oppression of The People. obviously the solution is to get rid of the Oppressors' Bureacracies and replace them with institutions dedicated to liberating The People from their Oppressors.
this isn't a novel line of argument, and as to whether people will buy the same old bullshit all over again, well, they already are, aren't they?
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link
this thread has become very intangible
― Dan S, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link
xp and yet by nearly any measure quality of life has improved as those bureaucracies have proliferated soooooo
― the late great, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link
Definitely need more dirtbag leftists at OSHA to run the checklists on those chemical plants.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link
Also Dan S otm I think?
honestly is it really so much worse than the alternatives
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link
Now you sound like a garden variety libertarian
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link
I meant re thread derailment lol
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:42 (six years ago) link
OK now we share a lol
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 April 2018 02:08 (six years ago) link
just large bureaucracies that murder children, ET
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:52 (six years ago) link
i mean that shitpile Albright even got a fresh NPR segment the other day
Brad you're just a centrist enabler
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:53 (six years ago) link
and yet by nearly any measure quality of life has improved as those bureaucracies have proliferated soooooo
for whom? i'm not thrilled with my QoL these days, and it will likely get worse.
however if Tom is hiring...
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:56 (six years ago) link
hillary clinton, a woman worth over 00 million dollars, is posting a gofundme to help cover the medical bills of someone who worked for her. there is truly no metaphor more beautiful for how rich people think— Official Enya VEVO (@nachdermas) September 17, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link
what should she do?
― the late great, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link
read thread
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link
nah
― the late great, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link
bump
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link
who?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
"All black people look alike."- Hillary Clinton 2018 pic.twitter.com/A7oPH17pNA— 🎃Spoopy Human Bean🎃 (@Rebell117) October 30, 2018
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
"all centrists talk alike"
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
I make that joke too. OK?
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
worst comedian of her generation
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
Except what other joke is there to make when white people still can't tell high profile or completely physically different black people or asian people or latinx apart. It's absurdly ridiculous in how tiresome it is.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
She is not really the one doing something embarrassing there?
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
no, she's not. But I've already seen this circulating as a reason she's racist. So congrats everyone.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
Like I just saw this on a the NIKE stream on a trading board where all the MAGA trolls like to hang out right now.
tbh I don't see the case for it not being smarter to just politely correct the interviewer and leave it at that but I also don't see why anyone should care either way
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link
I make that joke too. OK?― Yerac, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 1:32 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Yerac, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 1:32 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
uh...
Except what other joke is there to make when white people still can't tell high profile or completely physically different black people or asian people or latinx apart. It's absurdly ridiculous in how tiresome it is.― Yerac, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 1:37 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Yerac, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 1:37 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
huh?
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link
good thing nobody elected a racist president huh
― Freda VanFleet (symsymsym), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
what's your actual question, flappy? xpost
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 1:41 PM (twenty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
right, I just think it's funny how often HRC ends up with her foot in her mouth. cf. "CP time"
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
yerac i'm confused why anyone would make that joke it's not a good onei'm also not comparing this to anything Trump did, jfc. I voted for Hillary, I find her gaffes inexplicable and amusing.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
I make it all the time, because again I hear people confusing black people and asian people all the time. This shit is not hard. It's a way to correct someone jokingly while also fucking CORRECTING them for a super annoying subtle to pretty racist thing.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZIwwf1onKM
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
idk about that, I think what Simon said is the right move
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
ditto
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
there's a mortifying air of superiority to it when one white person does it to another imho
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
I mean I could tell you the crazy amount of random korean, japanese, vietnamese, chinese people that I was in the vicinity of or famous people that I have either been confused with or compared to that I look absolutely nothing like (and I'm half white).
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
ugh joke parsing is the worst twitter/ilx but imo this joke only really lands when it's 'we all look alike'
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
My spouse recently got two black famous people confused and literally was making a case for the mistake, because I said the "I Know they all look alike" until I put pictures side by side and he felt properly chagrined.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
xpost when I saw the clip and HC said it, I was like, BURN.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
I mean the joke/trope is so old, but her timing was pretty good.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
I hardly ever confuse black people with Asian people.
― pplains, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
I thought this was pretty funny but maybe not the best joke to make in a public setting
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link
I say this not knowing the color of everyone posting ITT, but sometimes with moments like this I wonder how many people are actually directly offended vs just arguing by proxy whether or not other people should/shouldn't be offended.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
i think we're arguing about our pain at HRC uttering words in public
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link
I personally just like making people feel bad about being lazy bitches.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
you sound like a ton of fun
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link