Hillary Clinton: Classic or Dud?

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ah, look, this isn't even a hard argument for a socialist revolutionary to make. the problem is that the existing bureaucracies are ideologically in service of oppression of The People. obviously the solution is to get rid of the Oppressors' Bureacracies and replace them with institutions dedicated to liberating The People from their Oppressors.

this isn't a novel line of argument, and as to whether people will buy the same old bullshit all over again, well, they already are, aren't they?

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link

this thread has become very intangible

Dan S, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link

xp and yet by nearly any measure quality of life has improved as those bureaucracies have proliferated soooooo

the late great, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link

Definitely need more dirtbag leftists at OSHA to run the checklists on those chemical plants.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

Also Dan S otm I think?

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

honestly is it really so much worse than the alternatives

Simon H., Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link

Now you sound like a garden variety libertarian

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link

I meant re thread derailment lol

Simon H., Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:42 (six years ago) link

OK now we share a lol

El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 April 2018 02:08 (six years ago) link

just large bureaucracies that murder children, ET

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:52 (six years ago) link

i mean that shitpile Albright even got a fresh NPR segment the other day

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:52 (six years ago) link

Brad you're just a centrist enabler

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:53 (six years ago) link

and yet by nearly any measure quality of life has improved as those bureaucracies have proliferated soooooo

for whom? i'm not thrilled with my QoL these days, and it will likely get worse.

however if Tom is hiring...

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:56 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

hillary clinton, a woman worth over 00 million dollars, is posting a gofundme to help cover the medical bills of someone who worked for her. there is truly no metaphor more beautiful for how rich people think

— Official Enya VEVO (@nachdermas) September 17, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link

what should she do?

the late great, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link

read thread

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 September 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link

nah

the late great, Friday, 21 September 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

bump

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link

who?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

"All black people look alike."
- Hillary Clinton 2018 pic.twitter.com/A7oPH17pNA

— 🎃Spoopy Human Bean🎃 (@Rebell117) October 30, 2018

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

"all centrists talk alike"

calzino, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

I make that joke too. OK?

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

worst comedian of her generation

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link

Except what other joke is there to make when white people still can't tell high profile or completely physically different black people or asian people or latinx apart. It's absurdly ridiculous in how tiresome it is.

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

She is not really the one doing something embarrassing there?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

no, she's not. But I've already seen this circulating as a reason she's racist. So congrats everyone.

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

Like I just saw this on a the NIKE stream on a trading board where all the MAGA trolls like to hang out right now.

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

tbh I don't see the case for it not being smarter to just politely correct the interviewer and leave it at that but I also don't see why anyone should care either way

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

I make that joke too. OK?

― Yerac, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 1:32 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh...

Except what other joke is there to make when white people still can't tell high profile or completely physically different black people or asian people or latinx apart. It's absurdly ridiculous in how tiresome it is.

― Yerac, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 1:37 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huh?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

good thing nobody elected a racist president huh

Freda VanFleet (symsymsym), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

what's your actual question, flappy? xpost

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

tbh I don't see the case for it not being smarter to just politely correct the interviewer and leave it at that but I also don't see why anyone should care either way

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 1:41 PM (twenty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

right, I just think it's funny how often HRC ends up with her foot in her mouth. cf. "CP time"

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

yerac i'm confused why anyone would make that joke it's not a good one
i'm also not comparing this to anything Trump did, jfc. I voted for Hillary, I find her gaffes inexplicable and amusing.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

I make it all the time, because again I hear people confusing black people and asian people all the time. This shit is not hard. It's a way to correct someone jokingly while also fucking CORRECTING them for a super annoying subtle to pretty racist thing.

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

idk about that, I think what Simon said is the right move

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

ditto

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

there's a mortifying air of superiority to it when one white person does it to another imho

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

I mean I could tell you the crazy amount of random korean, japanese, vietnamese, chinese people that I was in the vicinity of or famous people that I have either been confused with or compared to that I look absolutely nothing like (and I'm half white).

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

ugh joke parsing is the worst twitter/ilx but imo this joke only really lands when it's 'we all look alike'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

My spouse recently got two black famous people confused and literally was making a case for the mistake, because I said the "I Know they all look alike" until I put pictures side by side and he felt properly chagrined.

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

ugh joke parsing is the worst twitter/ilx but imo this joke only really lands when it's 'we all look alike'

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

xpost when I saw the clip and HC said it, I was like, BURN.

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

I mean the joke/trope is so old, but her timing was pretty good.

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

I hardly ever confuse black people with Asian people.

pplains, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

I thought this was pretty funny but maybe not the best joke to make in a public setting

k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link

I say this not knowing the color of everyone posting ITT, but sometimes with moments like this I wonder how many people are actually directly offended vs just arguing by proxy whether or not other people should/shouldn't be offended.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

i think we're arguing about our pain at HRC uttering words in public

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

I personally just like making people feel bad about being lazy bitches.

Yerac, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link

you sound like a ton of fun

k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link


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