POLL Neon Like -- ILM artist poll #88 -- BJÖRK (voting open until April 27, 2018)

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a mostly disintegrated version of that song is the only way to close homogenic imo

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

i see few agree

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'm just curious, wikipedia says it was swapped in last minute so I'm assuming there's more to the story than that? I'd complet

the album version is good, and works very well as a closer, but the single version is really incredible. after rediscovering the single version today (I'd completely forgotten about it somehow) I'm going to have to see how it compares in context of the album

ufo, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah I would agree that version works best for the album. But if I want to listen to it as a song in isolation I'll go for the single mix every time.

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chap, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlWC664ItaU

on the subject of alternate versions, it's very surprising to me that this is what Who Is It came out of.

ufo, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:54 (eight months ago) Permalink

Honestly, I just don't think the single version matches the song's mise-en-sound as well as the album mix.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

(for AIFOL, I mean)

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

Brad and Eric otm re aifoL

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

i don't want to f up the b-sides. i am a rookie when it comes to bjork b-sides. are there some obvious ones i should check out first?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

actually i'll just put on stevie d's playlist and give it the old college try myself

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

The 33 1/3 monograph on Homogenic didn't say a whole lot extra on the song's swap for Howie B's version other than, yeah, it's a more appropriate way to close out the album and emerge from the other side of "Pluto."

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'm really partial to...

Scary
Sod Off
Síðasta Ég
Generous Palmstroke

Lots of "s" sounds, evidently.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

karl
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visur vatnsenda-rosu
sod off
so broken
my snare/nature is ancient
generous palmstroke
verandi
mother heroic
domestica
scary
the boho dance
yoga w/ Tricky
you only live twice

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

can we please keep "dated" as a pejorative out of this thread?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

I am fine with what she's been doing with her albums throughout her career, but the dropoff in how many B-sides she releases is the real disappointment of her last 15 years as an artist.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

ty ross = eric h!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

i meant +

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

The 33 1/3 monograph on Homogenic didn't say a whole lot extra on the song's swap for Howie B's version other than, yeah, it's a more appropriate way to close out the album and emerge from the other side of "Pluto."

I meant to ask about that 33 1/3. Worth reading?

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

I thought the Sugarcubes (at the time) were arch as fuck except for "Hit" and "Birthday" so Debut was ideal for blowing me away. I have a memory of returning from a road trip with friends in August 1993 and turning on the college station and hearing that whirring drum program and thinking, whoa, what the fuck have I missed the last five days?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:20 (eight months ago) Permalink

Eric yeah it’s weird she dropped off in the bsides department. She still seems fairly committed to remixes like the biophilia remix album (excellent Herbert mix on there). Most recently forest swords did a staggering ambient version of stonemilker

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:37 (eight months ago) Permalink

xxp it was a great beach read for me, and brought me back to what it felt like for me as a listener when Homogenic was the newest development in her career

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

you at the beach?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

B-sides: “Charlene” and “I Go Humble”, the two Isobel b-sided, are phenomenal .

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 19:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

I don't fuck with All Is Full Of Love, sry, and I remember when friends were like "oh but the PLAID remix, oh but the VIDEO version" and no no no thank you so much!

But I'm in the "Homogenic is flawed" camp-- four perfect songs ("Hunter", "Joga", "Unravel", "Pluto")-- four un-extraordinary songs marred by weird/bad lyrics, when the-wonderful-obliqueness-of-non-English-as-a-first-language-individuals-writing-lyrics-in-English collides with infantilism and/or cuteness then I get the hives ("All Neon Like", "Five Years", "Alarm Call", "Immature")--

--a song I'm surprised became a single because it feels long and has that "if you forget my name / you will go astray / like a killer whale / trapped in a bay" garbage that is Desiree levels of "ghost / most / toast" embarrassment-- yes I know it's Sjon and not Bjork herself-- and I don't like the piano bass-line either-- this is "Isobel"'s annoyingly precocious younger brother who demands that you listen to him recite the times-tables before dessert--

--and then All Is Full of Love. I don't know why it doesn't work for me.

The A-side of "Debut" is the best. "Human Behaviour"'s insane vocal entrance, completely divorced from the tuning of the timpani, some of the best new-spins-on-what-is-considered-lyrics without the cutesiness: "but oh to be involved in the exchange / of human emotion / is ever so ever so satisfying" and my Virgo heart stops and says "yes, Bjork, this is indeed true, you are singing truths"-- again, "his wicked / sense of humour / suggests / exciting sex" she is half songwriter half docent-at-the-Natural-History-Museum

There is so much interesting shit going on harmonically on those four songs, none of the songs feel complete as a result, they satisfying but also create hunger for repeat listens-- and then Big Time Sensuality is just a mission statement

I adore every song on Debut except "Violently Happy" ("...because I love you?" that is not a good rejoinder)

And Post is perfect, "The Modern Things" is the weakest track and it's still fucking amazing

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

I remember picking "Homogenic" up the day it came out and showing my friends the cover art and Paul said "is that good art? I don't think it is. I think it's bad."

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

"but oh to be involved in the exchange / of human emotion / is ever so ever so satisfying"

I still must remind myself every other day that this is true.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

5 years is so good tho - the distorted percussion and the strings are tops

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

But I'm in the "Homogenic is flawed" camp-- four perfect songs ("Hunter", "Joga", "Unravel", "Pluto")-- four un-extraordinary songs marred by weird/bad lyrics, when the-wonderful-obliqueness-of-non-English-as-a-first-language-individuals-writing-lyrics-in-English collides with infantilism and/or cuteness then I get the hives ("All Neon Like", "Five Years", "Alarm Call", "Immature")--

--a song I'm surprised became a single because it feels long and has that "if you forget my name / you will go astray / like a killer whale / trapped in a bay" garbage that is Desiree levels of "ghost / most / toast" embarrassment-- yes I know it's Sjon and not Bjork herself-- and I don't like the piano bass-line either-- this is "Isobel"'s annoyingly precocious younger brother who demands that you listen to him recite the times-tables before dessert--

--and then All Is Full of Love. I don't know why it doesn't work for me.

Well, agreed that "Bachelorette" is inferior to "Isobel," at any rate.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

Not because of its lyrics, in any case. My upbringing has all but ensured that I don't really hear lyrics most of the time.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

"five years" always reminds me of marching band bc the opening synth sound resembles the pitch control function on metronomes

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

Which is probably connected to why I've never really been able to get into "Human Behavior." It sounds wrong to my ears the same way Shep Pettibone sounds wrong to Dan P's.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

Oh, the production is wonderful across the board on those Homogenic songs

But Bjork coming over to weave a cocoon that will feed me with a luminous beam? "I dare you to take me on / I dare you to show me your palms", "you can't handle love / you can't handle love, it's obvious / you can't handle"? "I'm no fucking Buddhist / but this is enlightenment"?

I actually like "Immature"'s lyrics I don't know why I called it un-extraordinary

I mean I know it's maybe weird and shit of me as a consumer to get all "these lyrics aren't good" with an artist I adore but like... this is widely considered to be a Perfect Record in many camps, and I don't quite j'accuse but I definitely suspect that a weakness for pixie-faced-women-from-other-countries-with-adorable-accents-who-talk-about-the-men-who-live-inside-TV-sets is a contributing factor to the acceptance of clunker after clunker after clunker

Sorry btw it's always my favourite musicians that I am most critical of, I love what you've done with the place, now let me tell you what I really think

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

Bachelorette is amazing and you are all crazy

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

inside every young pair of pants
is a fountain
(a fountain)
IN THE SHAAPE OF A GIIIRLL

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

Five Years is one of my favorite beats ever.

Love the tango-esque piano bassline on Bachelorette, glad I don't care about lyrics much.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

I like how “The Modern Things” and “Immature” serve the same function on their respective albums: the most overlooked and secretly-best songs.

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

hmm "The Modern Things" was my go-to after burning out on "Army of Me."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

I suppose “Crying” is the equivalent on Debut - a track no one ever talks about (but no one singles out for specific criticism either) which is a perfect precis of the album’s intentions and charms.

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

Def true in the case of “Crying”

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

“crying” is def on my ballot until i listen to all of the other albums and have a nervous breakdown over my ballot

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

otoh "Big Time Sensuality" left me cold at the time but hearing remixes at the club months later unleashed it

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

oh! My review of Post published in the college paper was my first ever

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

One day
I found a book buried deep within the ground
I opened the book and to my surprise
There was a forest
I went into the forest
And there I found a book buried deep within the ground
Inside that book there was another book
One day
I found a forest buried deep within a book
I went into the book and to my surprise
I found a book buried deep within the ground

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 22:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

For your consideration: "Cocoon"

geoffreyess, Thursday, 12 April 2018 03:38 (eight months ago) Permalink

^that’s probably my no 1

Euchrid Eucrow (sciatica), Thursday, 12 April 2018 03:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

Cocoon is a lovely song but it's totally overshadowed by the songs around it. It was such a weird song to see performed on Top Of The Pops. Not exactly one to get the crowd going and some reason, it only lasted a minute and a half.

kitchen person, Thursday, 12 April 2018 03:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

Of course it's on YouTube https://youtu.be/jMRY2cy45ms

kitchen person, Thursday, 12 April 2018 03:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

Cocoon slid inside my list at #2, we faded back into sleephood, when I awoke a second time, with my list, gorgeousness, it was still at #2

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

I mean I know we all know right but it’s just challops to say that Hyper-Ballad isn’t the best song of the 90s and in the top 10 of all time right

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:09 (eight months ago) Permalink

It’s hard to communicate now how inspiring Homogenic was to me as a teenager. At the time it seemed like there was I other pop star marrying the influence of aphex twin and IDM with stirring melodies and vocals. Shame aphex took the piss out of Bjork on “funny little man”

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Thursday, 12 April 2018 06:30 (eight months ago) Permalink


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