POLL Neon Like -- ILM artist poll #88 -- BJÖRK (voting open until April 27, 2018)

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it's fun to imagine what the debut-era video would have been like

definitely. it'll be high on my song ballot

Vinnie, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 08:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

imo, "One Day" -> "Aeroplane" -> "Come To Me" packages together three gorgeous-but-similar-in-tone songs and weakens the impact of them individually

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 12:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

fyi this is a great source for her remixes, grouped by era

http://www.youtube.com/user/BjorkDisography/playlists

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 13:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

b-sides too, it's p comprehensive

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 13:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

oh I also made this which afaict is a comprehensive list of all b-sides thru Vespertine

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlHmB5haapzRYVDJ30_ONRAd1_mrKbUCs

anyone who sleeps on her b-sides is canceled

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 13:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

imo, "One Day" -> "Aeroplane" -> "Come To Me" packages together three gorgeous-but-similar-in-tone songs and weakens the impact of them individually

― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:26 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i disagree this is my favorite sequence in the album

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 14:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

"aeroplane" is so hissing of summer lawns that i can't really think of it as similar in tone. maybe in tempo

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 14:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

i disagree this is my favorite sequence in the album

― flamenco drop (BradNelson),

this ^^^

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 14:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

"Come to Me" was for years my favorite Bjork hyperballad.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 14:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

When I was thirteen and Bjork was my favourite artist in the world "Come To Me" totally changed my life.

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:07 (eight months ago) Permalink

Also I don't really feel like those 3 tunes are terribly similar.

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think the second half of Debut does suffer, at least on initial listens, from being flatter and less whiplash-careening than the first half. It took many many listens for “One Day” and “Come To Me” to clear spaces around themselves. When they did, they became favorites; it just took some time amid the chaos. Which is the context I’ve always interpreted the lyrics to “One Day,” fwiw.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

Only discovered by chance the other day just how much the vocals on 'Headphones' sound like 'Earthbeat' from Return Of The Giant Slits.

piscesx, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'd been a huge fan of the 3rd and final Sugarcubes album, but aside from a coupla tracks i didn't think much of Debut in the end. Saw the '93 tour though, it wasn't too well-attended iirc. Funny enough Oasis did their first ever gig after signing to Creation just a few blocks away at the same time. I had no expectations for Post because ultimately Debut kinda let me down. I was flat out astonished when i heard it. It was one of those albums that seemed to take everybody by surprise; just a total leap up in.. everything! I recall not long after its release, Ed from Radiohead saying they were trying deliberately to rip off Possibly Maybe on one of the songs from The Bends, i forget which. I still have a lot of affection for it, it's equal to Vespertine in my 'faves'

piscesx, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

i thought i could organize feelings
how ILMian of me

vermicious kid (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

does anyone know what the story is behind the Howie B mix of All Is Full Of Love being the one to make the album

ufo, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

It's got some lovey songs, but some of the production and arrangements on Debut sound dated in a way that her other 90s output doesn't (eg that horrible synth guitar or whatever it is at the very end of the otherwise wonderful Human Behaviour).

chap, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

pfft "dated"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'd like to point out Carcass' bonkers remix of Isobel. Kind of horrible and misfiring, but I'm glad it exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiPMAqEo2gE

chap, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:33 (eight months ago) Permalink

does anyone know what the story is behind the Howie B mix of All Is Full Of Love being the one to make the album

Quickest way to start a fight with me in a Bjork thread, btw.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

a mostly disintegrated version of that song is the only way to close homogenic imo

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

i see few agree

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'm just curious, wikipedia says it was swapped in last minute so I'm assuming there's more to the story than that? I'd complet

the album version is good, and works very well as a closer, but the single version is really incredible. after rediscovering the single version today (I'd completely forgotten about it somehow) I'm going to have to see how it compares in context of the album

ufo, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah I would agree that version works best for the album. But if I want to listen to it as a song in isolation I'll go for the single mix every time.

xpost

chap, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlWC664ItaU

on the subject of alternate versions, it's very surprising to me that this is what Who Is It came out of.

ufo, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 15:54 (eight months ago) Permalink

Honestly, I just don't think the single version matches the song's mise-en-sound as well as the album mix.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

(for AIFOL, I mean)

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

Brad and Eric otm re aifoL

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

i don't want to f up the b-sides. i am a rookie when it comes to bjork b-sides. are there some obvious ones i should check out first?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

actually i'll just put on stevie d's playlist and give it the old college try myself

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

The 33 1/3 monograph on Homogenic didn't say a whole lot extra on the song's swap for Howie B's version other than, yeah, it's a more appropriate way to close out the album and emerge from the other side of "Pluto."

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'm really partial to...

Scary
Sod Off
Síðasta Ég
Generous Palmstroke

Lots of "s" sounds, evidently.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

karl
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visur vatnsenda-rosu
sod off
so broken
my snare/nature is ancient
generous palmstroke
verandi
mother heroic
domestica
scary
the boho dance
yoga w/ Tricky
you only live twice

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

can we please keep "dated" as a pejorative out of this thread?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

I am fine with what she's been doing with her albums throughout her career, but the dropoff in how many B-sides she releases is the real disappointment of her last 15 years as an artist.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

ty ross = eric h!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

i meant +

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

The 33 1/3 monograph on Homogenic didn't say a whole lot extra on the song's swap for Howie B's version other than, yeah, it's a more appropriate way to close out the album and emerge from the other side of "Pluto."

I meant to ask about that 33 1/3. Worth reading?

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

I thought the Sugarcubes (at the time) were arch as fuck except for "Hit" and "Birthday" so Debut was ideal for blowing me away. I have a memory of returning from a road trip with friends in August 1993 and turning on the college station and hearing that whirring drum program and thinking, whoa, what the fuck have I missed the last five days?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:20 (eight months ago) Permalink

Eric yeah it’s weird she dropped off in the bsides department. She still seems fairly committed to remixes like the biophilia remix album (excellent Herbert mix on there). Most recently forest swords did a staggering ambient version of stonemilker

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:37 (eight months ago) Permalink

xxp it was a great beach read for me, and brought me back to what it felt like for me as a listener when Homogenic was the newest development in her career

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

you at the beach?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

B-sides: “Charlene” and “I Go Humble”, the two Isobel b-sided, are phenomenal .

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 19:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

I don't fuck with All Is Full Of Love, sry, and I remember when friends were like "oh but the PLAID remix, oh but the VIDEO version" and no no no thank you so much!

But I'm in the "Homogenic is flawed" camp-- four perfect songs ("Hunter", "Joga", "Unravel", "Pluto")-- four un-extraordinary songs marred by weird/bad lyrics, when the-wonderful-obliqueness-of-non-English-as-a-first-language-individuals-writing-lyrics-in-English collides with infantilism and/or cuteness then I get the hives ("All Neon Like", "Five Years", "Alarm Call", "Immature")--

--a song I'm surprised became a single because it feels long and has that "if you forget my name / you will go astray / like a killer whale / trapped in a bay" garbage that is Desiree levels of "ghost / most / toast" embarrassment-- yes I know it's Sjon and not Bjork herself-- and I don't like the piano bass-line either-- this is "Isobel"'s annoyingly precocious younger brother who demands that you listen to him recite the times-tables before dessert--

--and then All Is Full of Love. I don't know why it doesn't work for me.

The A-side of "Debut" is the best. "Human Behaviour"'s insane vocal entrance, completely divorced from the tuning of the timpani, some of the best new-spins-on-what-is-considered-lyrics without the cutesiness: "but oh to be involved in the exchange / of human emotion / is ever so ever so satisfying" and my Virgo heart stops and says "yes, Bjork, this is indeed true, you are singing truths"-- again, "his wicked / sense of humour / suggests / exciting sex" she is half songwriter half docent-at-the-Natural-History-Museum

There is so much interesting shit going on harmonically on those four songs, none of the songs feel complete as a result, they satisfying but also create hunger for repeat listens-- and then Big Time Sensuality is just a mission statement

I adore every song on Debut except "Violently Happy" ("...because I love you?" that is not a good rejoinder)

And Post is perfect, "The Modern Things" is the weakest track and it's still fucking amazing

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

I remember picking "Homogenic" up the day it came out and showing my friends the cover art and Paul said "is that good art? I don't think it is. I think it's bad."

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

"but oh to be involved in the exchange / of human emotion / is ever so ever so satisfying"

I still must remind myself every other day that this is true.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

5 years is so good tho - the distorted percussion and the strings are tops

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

But I'm in the "Homogenic is flawed" camp-- four perfect songs ("Hunter", "Joga", "Unravel", "Pluto")-- four un-extraordinary songs marred by weird/bad lyrics, when the-wonderful-obliqueness-of-non-English-as-a-first-language-individuals-writing-lyrics-in-English collides with infantilism and/or cuteness then I get the hives ("All Neon Like", "Five Years", "Alarm Call", "Immature")--

--a song I'm surprised became a single because it feels long and has that "if you forget my name / you will go astray / like a killer whale / trapped in a bay" garbage that is Desiree levels of "ghost / most / toast" embarrassment-- yes I know it's Sjon and not Bjork herself-- and I don't like the piano bass-line either-- this is "Isobel"'s annoyingly precocious younger brother who demands that you listen to him recite the times-tables before dessert--

--and then All Is Full of Love. I don't know why it doesn't work for me.

Well, agreed that "Bachelorette" is inferior to "Isobel," at any rate.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

Not because of its lyrics, in any case. My upbringing has all but ensured that I don't really hear lyrics most of the time.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

"five years" always reminds me of marching band bc the opening synth sound resembles the pitch control function on metronomes

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:46 (eight months ago) Permalink


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