oh good to know (i knew the premium content was easy to find but didn't know where - I've never visited the site reddit iirc)
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
re: that thread, there are some leaps
Like:
There are individual democrats who deeply believe in Roe v. Wade and want to protect it but to think that there’s something natural in a liberal ideology that requires abortion as an issue is just ignorant. It’s 100% negotiable for the center left.— the arizona rose (@oppenfailer) April 10, 2018
doesn't contradict Matt's line about being pro-choice - that they're so weak ideologically makes them susceptible to finding compromise and wiggle room. She's also conflating "Democrat" and "liberal" in those posts - the Democratic party line is that you "don't have to be pro-choice" but that's because Pelosi and Schumer still want to sell the idea of a Blue Dog contingent and a big tent with centrists and etc..
― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
Virgil’s out making new friends again
Please pray for Barbara Bush, who is currently in critical condition after attempting to give birth to a goblin.— Virgil Texas (@virgiltexas) April 15, 2018
The goblin is currently in stable condition and will be elected Texas Railroad Commissioner in 2044.— Virgil Texas (@virgiltexas) April 15, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 16 April 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link
i want an episode of amber and ernest talking about moving
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 April 2018 00:24 (six years ago) link
we need to hear from ernest
FWIW my impression is that there is a pretty strong divide among the center-left over whether abortion is an absolute redline or not. There are definitely otherwise center-ish democrats, especially but not exclusively women, who think the party should never back a non-pro-choice candidate.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 16 April 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link
So I think "it's 100% negotiable for the center left" is kind of a simplification. There are many centrists for whom it is non-negotiable.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 16 April 2018 01:38 (six years ago) link
A majority, I think! What a crock of shit to claim that anti-choice has a place in the mainstream of the democratic party. Scum like Lipinski are rightfully on the margins, and widely reviled
― Dan I., Monday, 16 April 2018 02:51 (six years ago) link
I don't even know why (because it was business as usual) but I found their segment on Syria pretty repellent. I think I'm out on these jr. high dipshits.
― President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link
what did you find repellent about it? I found it more inoffensive and unfocused.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 16 April 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link
Although the Power/Slaughter takes were pretty hilarious in a dark sort of way
Would really love to know how and why you guys listened to a 90 minute podcast that dropped right before midnight last night
― like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
Um, it's called a morning commute? We have jobs.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 16 April 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link
just all the sneering "Macron is my boyfriend" and "America needs to go down" shit. It's not that I even disagree with anything, just they seem unable to rise above their twitter beefs to talk about anything serious. It's like trying to talk about health care with someone who just wants to talk about how their personal doctor is a nerd.
― President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link
I had a long post-ice-storm commute this morning.
Idk what y'all expected from the Syria segment but "unfocused" is fair. Both interview segments were stronger. xps
― Simon H., Monday, 16 April 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link
Midnight was ten 1/2 hours ago. Catch up, man.
― President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link
american does need to go down tbf
― Simon H., Monday, 16 April 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link
some do
― President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link
lmao autocorrect
anyway yeah idk man that's the podcast they make, I'm sure there are Serious Lefty Foreign Policy Podcasts but CTH has virtually never been one of them except in the interminable Felix one-off/solo interview episodes
― Simon H., Monday, 16 April 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
It's not that I even disagree with anything, just they seem unable to rise above their twitter beefs to talk about anything serious.
Always assumed this was the m.o.? It's a comedy podcast. The guests regularly talk about serious stuff tho.
xpost what Simon said
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 16 April 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link
yeah, if you want serious analysis, listen to (the excellent) citations needed - while chapo does touch on that sometimes, it's usually only with guests who can help focus the discussion
the syria segment was pretty terrible but in fairness i dunno what else they could say about it - the situation is super fucked-up, there is no clear right solution, but performative bombing def seems like a wrong answer
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 April 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link
yeah man, i understand that they attempt to be funny. however they often fail.
― President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link
it's no pod save america, that's for sure
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 April 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
― President Keyes, Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Really sad that people keep forcing you to listen to this unfunny podcast
― like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link
says the poster who was just attempting to dunk on people for going to work while listening to a podcast
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 April 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link
I need material to troll people on this message board i frequent
― President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
Chapo criticism is like a Whiney bat signal
― President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 14:47 (six years ago) link
It is hilarious every time this happens though
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 April 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link
Syria bit didn't seem unserious to me (moreso than you'd expect from a humorous political podcast) - "Macron is my boyfriend" was a two second throwaway line that never got revisited.The point of CTH is that it's not just droll political talk. There are outlets for that if you want it - I appreciate Citations Needed and some other but as a whole I'd rather read non-humorous political discussion than hear it.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 16 April 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link
yeah, I think I probably didn't explain myself very well. I like political humor quite a bit. But the Chapo folk are repellent and repetitive.
― President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
Mic Dicta can’t release episodes fast enough these days
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 16 April 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 April 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
probably boredom/excessive free time
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 April 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
also the only reason i ever listen to podcasts
Lmao any criticism of the show and it's like WHY ARE YOU LISTENING TO IT? NO ONE'S PUTTING A GUN TO YOUR HEAD
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 April 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link
the makeup of their audience and how people listen to the show and what it actually is/whatever it started as is hilarious and really interesting imo
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 April 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link
@ ups - I don't even know why (because it was business as usual) but I found their segment on Syria pretty repellent. I think I'm out on these jr. high dipshits.
― President Keyes, Monday, April 16, 2018 10:20 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is a typically lazy & supercilious response to the show. if it was business as usual why did you keep listening
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 April 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link
The litmus test on listening IMO is how down you are with their attitude toward US foreign policy (non-interventionist), you have to be down with the idea that we're largely a force of evil in the world or else laughing at liberal/centrists on FP is going to be unlistenable.
If 'all postwar Presidents are war criminals' gets your dander up, not the show for you.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 16 April 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link
liking the...fifteen minutes of mic dicta I've listened thus far
― gbx, Monday, 16 April 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link
After getting a barrage for several hours for commentary:
Mr. Star, do you admit participating in a legal podcast that you enjoy doing?- Yes, your honor.Then I have no choice but to sentence you to do that podcast all the time for the rest of your life. You may only discuss Michael Cohen.- This is fair. I expected nothing less.— Charles, Star of Mic Dicta (@Ugarles) April 16, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link
I should listen to that. I already follow most of 'em.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 17 April 2018 00:04 (six years ago) link
mic dicta is really good so far. i'm getting kind of sick of chapo. that's my update.
it's not really 'political' but i've been really impressed with 'the relentless picnic' so far too
― goole, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
(for any of you who may have run into the 'george lazenby' tumblr way back when, he's one of those guys)
― goole, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link
thought the recent one was pretty decent. i totally understand how hearing an flat anti-war stance would drive people insane cos i used to flaunt that stance on ilx and got tons of shit for it. anti-war is just not popular stance (so props to people like this for trying to fix that).
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
sadlol
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link
i totally understand how hearing an flat anti-racist stance would drive people insane cos i used to flaunt that stance on ilx and got tons of shit for it. anti-racism is just not popular stance (so props to people like this for trying to fix that).
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link
Yeah you're mowing down those ilxor racists Fred
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link
the latest Citations Needed features an interview with "a former MSNBC employee" whose voice has been anonymized.
https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-34-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-msnbc
― Simon H., Wednesday, 18 April 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
ooh la la!
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link
I'm down with citations needed but not enough to pay for it I am a monster
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link