The Law Can't Touch Her at All: Dylan's Bringing It All Back Home

Welp, I voted for Gates of Eden, and I'm not sorry. It's not necessarily the best song on here, but to me it's maybe the one that's the most intense and visionary. Seems to be fearlessly exploring some other woozy dimension. To be honest I feel it feels kind of of a piece with "It's Alright Ma...". They compliment each other.

No way, we did a skit based on it freshman year.

― timellison, Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:39 AM (thirty-three minutes ago)

haha that is awesome!

"and how come he didn't drive a truck" seems like a very bob dylan thing to ask someone, somehow

Shocked at 1) no Love Minus Zero consensus 2) people aren't totally sick of Subterranean Homesick Blues

Only other real contender here is Mr. Tambourine Man. Great record, but it has Love Minus Zero.

I'm just coming out and saying that I refuse to choose.

i said, you know, they refused jesus, too. he said, you're not him.

even those throwaways you mention — "outlaw blues" and "on the road again" get by on pure attitude
indeed one of my favorite Bob moments is

Then you ask why I don't LIVE here
Honey, how COME you don't MOVE

i love the two takes in 115th dream! i voted baby blue!

Yeah the false start on the dream is awesome

It's Alright Ma

Leaning a lot towards It's All Over Now Baby Blue but I really can't ignore Love Minus Zero/No Limit either - went for the latter in the end.

115th Dream, for the false start, for the hilarity of its twisted take on the founding fathers/Moby Dick, for the sound of a band having fun

Shocked...people aren't totally sick of Subterranean Homesick Blues

I'm a little tired of it too, except when I watch the Pennebaker clip, when it automatically becomes the greatest thing ever done. I'm going to copy it for my staff yearbook photo this year (deciding on which cue card right now).

voted for Maggie's Farm, love the bile and the way that he sketches those characters

Well, he puts his cigar
Out in your face just for kicks
His bedroom window
It is made out of bricks
The National Guard stands around his door
Ah, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's pa no more

his bedroom window is made out of bricks is such a devastating insult lol

she talks to all the servants about Man and God and Law. everybody says she's the brains behind pa.

THEN HE FINES YOU EVERY TIME YOU SLAM THE DOOR

well he hands you a nickel, he hands you a dime
he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time

it's that "with a grin" that makes the line for me

otm

maggie's brother is the most immediately hateful one: the paymaster and enforcer. cruel smile on display. but behind him, pa capital, walled up and guarded (yet still smoking in yr face)-- probably worse. and behind him... what? an idea? an eye in the pyramid kind of deal? when force is gone, there's always mom

also, where is maggie? what does she do? have always wondered.

Welp, I voted for Gates of Eden, and I'm not sorry. It's not necessarily the best song on here, but to me it's maybe the one that's the most intense and visionary.

feel u, certainly it has some fairly jumbled verses but it also has some of my fave images on the album (dogs on the beach, rotting kingdoms, "the princess and the prince discuss / what's real and what is not" is superior to pound and eliot in the tower imo), a droning vortex melody that makes the clumsier lines at least spooky, and (my fave moment)
the drawled assonance on the phrase "i try to harmonize".

voted Dream just cos it's so much fun. feels like one of those 60's comedies with Peter Sellers or whoever and a house full of random partiers.

really love when he sings "An Englishman said 'fab'", it just comes out of nowhere so it's extra funny. it's just so plainly stated, it doesn't need any spin to it, just the idea of an Englishman saying "fab" in this whirlwind of insanity instantly gets the joke across.

also, where is maggie? what does she do? have always wondered.

― difficult listening hour, Friday, April 13, 2018 5:25 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maggie thatcher, obv

dylan always was ahead of his time

http://phildellio.tripod.com/homesick.JPG

I'm guessing a quarter of the people I work with already think I'm senile, so really, this can only help.

SHB is classic, more than ever. for me the cards have transcended from cool to overused cliche to now legendary, its an Instagram post, its a selfie, a meme, complete with celebrity photo bomb cred. the funny thing about being ahead of your time is that doesn't stop being true in fact it only seems for prophetic as time goes on.

really love the Nilsson/Lennon version on "Pussy Cats", it has a real cool dirty Voorman bass line. Dylan's original band recording is of course perfection, the ultimate junkyard rock. like a wheezing huffing punk steam engine dying in slow motion.

I play tambourine carefully and, I think, reasonably well. Good tambourine players are few, and what they do is subtle and song-enhancing. I love a well-played tambourine.

HOWEVER. There is no one in the history of ever who has "played a song" on the tambourine, as if it were a solo instrument capable of harmony, melody, or song structure.

And, I will further postulate, if it were possible to "play a song" on the tambourine, no one who "played a song" on the tambourine did so in a way that was sensorally transformative to the assembled listeners.

I always thought Mr. Tambourine Man’s primary instrument was guitar and that Turkish tambourine was just an extra.

Have you ever played a tambourine...on acid?

I always thought Mr. Tambourine Man’s primary instrument was guitar

Based on... what exactly?

If his primary instrument is guitar, then we would call him Mr. Guitar Man. Or Mr. Guitar Man Who Also Happens to Have a Tambourine.

Hendrix, Dylan, and Lennon all occasionally played bass. But would you refer to any of them as "Mr. Bassist"?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/apr/21/bruce-langhorne-obituary

Right. Langhorne was... a guitarist who sometimes played tambourine.

If his primary instrument is guitar, then we would call him Mr. Guitar Man. Or Mr. Guitar Man Who Also Happens to Have a Tambourine.

― fleetwood machiavellian (Ye Mad Puffin)

are Mr. Airplane Man's primary instrument airplane?

Also, if you don't feel transported by tambourine solos perhaps you will enjoy solos on the the maracas and cajón:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlhYAKfilYk

But yeah, the truth be told I once asked my self exactly the same questions as you, YMP, about what was the nature of his “song.”

If his primary instrument is guitar, then we would call him Mr. Guitar Man. Or Mr. Guitar Man Who Also Happens to Have a Tambourine.
There was a street musician in my town for a few summers, when I was a teenager, an American with a guitar playing rock classics, and I'd often run into him with friends when out partying late. He had these small film containers half-filled with rice that he would use as rhythm eggs, and at some point he gave me one of those, said it was a "wonder-shaker", and I accompanied him for a few songs. I took it home with me and I keep it to this day. We called him the wonder-shaker man, and I always think of him when I think of mr. Tambourine Man.

so many lines from SHB regularly pop into my mind, especially
Twenty years of schoolin’
and they put you on the day shift

Me and my brother went to the same high-school and my brother got real fed up with it at some point. I admitted to him that I had also been fed up with it and that for a long time while riding my bike to school I would sing from the top of my lungs (in Danish translation): "I AIN'T GONNA GO TO [name of school] NO MORE!". To my surprise, he told me that he'd been singing the exact same silly translation for weeks!

This album rules.

If I had to rate these songs, I think I'd put them in the following order (favorite to least).

"It's All Over Now, Baby Blue"
"Maggie's Farm"
"Love Minus Zero/No Limit
"Subterranean Homesick Blues"
"It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)"
"Bob Dylan's 115th Dream"
"Gates of Eden"
"She Belongs to Me"
"On the Road Again"
"Mr. Tambourine Man"
"Outlaw Blues"

There is no one in the history of ever who has "played a song" on the tambourine

as usual with Dylan im pretty sure it's half earnest half jerking your chain but mostly there for color.

for me it conjures up travelling minstrels, saying "guitar player" would be a bit too modern, it's as much of an oddly formed anachronism as Dylan's role as pop "folk" musician. on that tip tambourine is an accessible instrument to all whereas guitar has skill/technical barriers to entry, it's a bit of communal creation/breaking down barriers between artist and audience.

i want to say also it took me some time but eventually it clicked that Lou Reed is trying to be Dylan on so many VU tracks ("baby be gooood/ do what you shouuuld/ you know it'll be alriiight").

ah im regretting not voting for "It's All Over Now Baby Blue". the chord change where he dives into "the carpet too is moving under you" is so unexpected it feels like like an emotional sucker punch. the rest of the song is just standard I/IV/V and the sudden unsteadiness never fails to take me back. it's like the brief time when you are going down a set of stairs and miss a step. or when you are in a relationship and someone says something and you get this feeling in your stomach. so beautiful, that fall.

and on that line!

the Them version of "Baby Blue" is also classic, the vibraphone lick fits the trippiness of the words. its a good fit for the soul vocals of Van Morrison ("look out the saints are coming through"). Beck, another Dylan acolyte, interpolated Dylan & Them for his "Jackass".

legendary is the "Don't Look Back" take of Dylan playing it to Donovan. this is what it's like when rock stars drunkenly crash each others parties chasing memes/feuds in the 60s. Dylan starts playing "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" at 2:49:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqAhF6i9H4

that performance is so great. and for all the talk/myth/apocrypha about that night & its context, I always preferred the version of Love Minus Zero that Dylan plays in that hotel room over the version on the record. Again, it's the sublime & resigned chord changes paired with the devotional lyric. Negation and infinity.

i want to say also it took me some time but eventually it clicked that Lou Reed is trying to be Dylan on so many VU tracks ("baby be gooood/ do what you shouuuld/ you know it'll be alriiight").

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Donovan's "To Sing for You" is a really nice song. I've written lots about how Donovan is the god of pop-music soundtracks, even more than the Rolling Stones. I'm a big fan, and I was glad he went into the rock'n'roll HOF.

What makes that Pennebaker clip so great, though, is how overmatched he is by Dylan. He knows it (love his expression at 3:55), and Dylan knows it. Dylan really knows it, and he's basking in it (in a way that makes you smile, not hate him).

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my love

Can't argue with the results. There are at least 4 or 5 songs on here that I wouldn't argue with as a #1 though.

Voted for the favorite, but could just as easily have voted for “Outlaw Blues” as well as several others.

I'd choose She Belongs to Me over LMZ, I think Dylan does the cynical love portrait better than the sincere, also I just love the melody

both rule though

well, maaaybe Dylan's fondness for wordplay amphetamine gets the best of him in the 3rd verse

https://www.brainyquote.com/photos_tr/en/b/bobdylan/154487/bobdylan1-2x.jpg

lol that's what i think of the last verse of mr. tambourine man. but both are great

DAMN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofvsowhWPbc

quite faithful!

yeah I was surprised at that for 1976