The Law Can't Touch Her at All: Dylan's Bringing It All Back Home

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Been ages since I played the actual album (as opposed to my favourite songs)--truthfully, I can't remember how "Outlaw Blues" or "On the Road Again" go. I'm sure I'd immediately remember them within a few seconds. After "She Belongs to Me," I'd go with "Subterranean Homesick Blues," "Maggie's Farm," "Love Minus Zero," "Mr. Tambourine Man," and "Baby Blue." Great album cover, although I'd probably still go with the next two for cover art.

clemenza, Monday, 9 April 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link

this record really is great. even those throwaways you mention — "outlaw blues" and "on the road again" get by on pure attitude.
might go w/ love minus zero ... just such wonderful lyrics:

The bridge at midnight trembles
The country doctor rambles
Bankers' nieces seek perfection
Expecting all the gifts that wise men bring
The wind howls like a hammer
The night blows cold n' rainy
My love, she's like some raven
At my window with a broken wing

tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link

like clemenza, I can't remember the last time I played this album. Probably my favorite sixties Dylan after JWH, though.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 22:53 (six years ago) link

"bob dylan's 115th dream" was my favorite thing in the world for like two months after i discovered it, i remember writing a short story for high school in sophomore year loosely based on it. still think it builds to one of the best endings of any story-song i've ever heard -- maybe the best, feels as complete and satisfying as, like, "casey and the bat" or something. and nobody says GOOD LUCK quite like bob.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 9 April 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link

You say "How are you? Good luck," but you don't mean it...

clemenza, Monday, 9 April 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link

They'll stone you, and then they'll say "Good luck"...

clemenza, Monday, 9 April 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

Total weak setup line: "I asked the captain what his name was and how come he didn't drive a truck."

It's in there for no reason except to set up the rhyme "He said his name was Columbus and I just said 'good luck'."

I always thought that if he recorded the song about 10 years later, he could've said "I asked the captain what his name was, as if I gave a fuck."

Oh well.

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Monday, 9 April 2018 23:23 (six years ago) link

"bob dylan's 115th dream" was my favorite thing in the world for like two months after i discovered it, i remember writing a short story for high school in sophomore year loosely based on it.

No way, we did a skit based on it freshman year.

timellison, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 03:39 (six years ago) link

I feel bad saying this, but it feels to me like a warm-up for Tombstone Blues.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 03:44 (six years ago) link

Welp, I voted for Gates of Eden, and I'm not sorry. It's not necessarily the best song on here, but to me it's maybe the one that's the most intense and visionary. Seems to be fearlessly exploring some other woozy dimension. To be honest I feel it feels kind of of a piece with "It's Alright Ma...". They compliment each other.

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link

No way, we did a skit based on it freshman year.

― timellison, Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:39 AM (thirty-three minutes ago)

haha that is awesome!

"and how come he didn't drive a truck" seems like a very bob dylan thing to ask someone, somehow

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 04:15 (six years ago) link

Shocked at 1) no Love Minus Zero consensus 2) people aren't totally sick of Subterranean Homesick Blues

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 04:47 (six years ago) link

Only other real contender here is Mr. Tambourine Man. Great record, but it has Love Minus Zero.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 04:48 (six years ago) link

I'm just coming out and saying that I refuse to choose.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 05:37 (six years ago) link

i said, you know, they refused jesus, too. he said, you're not him.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 06:19 (six years ago) link

even those throwaways you mention — "outlaw blues" and "on the road again" get by on pure attitude
indeed one of my favorite Bob moments is

Then you ask why I don't LIVE here
Honey, how COME you don't MOVE

niels, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 06:27 (six years ago) link

i love the two takes in 115th dream! i voted baby blue!

, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

Yeah the false start on the dream is awesome

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

It's Alright Ma

brimstead, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

Leaning a lot towards It's All Over Now Baby Blue but I really can't ignore Love Minus Zero/No Limit either - went for the latter in the end.

Valentijn, Thursday, 12 April 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link

115th Dream, for the false start, for the hilarity of its twisted take on the founding fathers/Moby Dick, for the sound of a band having fun

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 13 April 2018 12:11 (six years ago) link

Shocked...people aren't totally sick of Subterranean Homesick Blues

I'm a little tired of it too, except when I watch the Pennebaker clip, when it automatically becomes the greatest thing ever done. I'm going to copy it for my staff yearbook photo this year (deciding on which cue card right now).

clemenza, Friday, 13 April 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link

voted for Maggie's Farm, love the bile and the way that he sketches those characters

Well, he puts his cigar
Out in your face just for kicks
His bedroom window
It is made out of bricks
The National Guard stands around his door
Ah, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's pa no more

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 April 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link

his bedroom window is made out of bricks is such a devastating insult lol

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 April 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link

she talks to all the servants about Man and God and Law. everybody says she's the brains behind pa.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 April 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

THEN HE FINES YOU EVERY TIME YOU SLAM THE DOOR

difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 April 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

well he hands you a nickel, he hands you a dime
he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time

it's that "with a grin" that makes the line for me

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 13 April 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link

otm

maggie's brother is the most immediately hateful one: the paymaster and enforcer. cruel smile on display. but behind him, pa capital, walled up and guarded (yet still smoking in yr face)-- probably worse. and behind him... what? an idea? an eye in the pyramid kind of deal? when force is gone, there's always mom

difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 April 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

also, where is maggie? what does she do? have always wondered.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 April 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link

Welp, I voted for Gates of Eden, and I'm not sorry. It's not necessarily the best song on here, but to me it's maybe the one that's the most intense and visionary.

feel u, certainly it has some fairly jumbled verses but it also has some of my fave images on the album (dogs on the beach, rotting kingdoms, "the princess and the prince discuss / what's real and what is not" is superior to pound and eliot in the tower imo), a droning vortex melody that makes the clumsier lines at least spooky, and (my fave moment)
the drawled assonance on the phrase "i try to harmonize".

difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 April 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

voted Dream just cos it's so much fun. feels like one of those 60's comedies with Peter Sellers or whoever and a house full of random partiers.

really love when he sings "An Englishman said 'fab'", it just comes out of nowhere so it's extra funny. it's just so plainly stated, it doesn't need any spin to it, just the idea of an Englishman saying "fab" in this whirlwind of insanity instantly gets the joke across.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 13 April 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link

also, where is maggie? what does she do? have always wondered.

― difficult listening hour, Friday, April 13, 2018 5:25 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maggie thatcher, obv

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 April 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link

dylan always was ahead of his time

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 April 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/homesick.JPG

I'm guessing a quarter of the people I work with already think I'm senile, so really, this can only help.

clemenza, Friday, 13 April 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

SHB is classic, more than ever. for me the cards have transcended from cool to overused cliche to now legendary, its an Instagram post, its a selfie, a meme, complete with celebrity photo bomb cred. the funny thing about being ahead of your time is that doesn't stop being true in fact it only seems for prophetic as time goes on.

really love the Nilsson/Lennon version on "Pussy Cats", it has a real cool dirty Voorman bass line. Dylan's original band recording is of course perfection, the ultimate junkyard rock. like a wheezing huffing punk steam engine dying in slow motion.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 13 April 2018 23:17 (six years ago) link

I play tambourine carefully and, I think, reasonably well. Good tambourine players are few, and what they do is subtle and song-enhancing. I love a well-played tambourine.

HOWEVER. There is no one in the history of ever who has "played a song" on the tambourine, as if it were a solo instrument capable of harmony, melody, or song structure.

And, I will further postulate, if it were possible to "play a song" on the tambourine, no one who "played a song" on the tambourine did so in a way that was sensorally transformative to the assembled listeners.

fleetwood machiavellian (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 13 April 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link

I always thought Mr. Tambourine Man’s primary instrument was guitar and that Turkish tambourine was just an extra.

Made in the Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 April 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link

Have you ever played a tambourine...on acid?

how's life, Saturday, 14 April 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link

I always thought Mr. Tambourine Man’s primary instrument was guitar

Based on... what exactly?

If his primary instrument is guitar, then we would call him Mr. Guitar Man. Or Mr. Guitar Man Who Also Happens to Have a Tambourine.

Hendrix, Dylan, and Lennon all occasionally played bass. But would you refer to any of them as "Mr. Bassist"?

fleetwood machiavellian (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 14 April 2018 01:18 (six years ago) link

Right. Langhorne was... a guitarist who sometimes played tambourine.

fleetwood machiavellian (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 14 April 2018 01:29 (six years ago) link

If his primary instrument is guitar, then we would call him Mr. Guitar Man. Or Mr. Guitar Man Who Also Happens to Have a Tambourine.

― fleetwood machiavellian (Ye Mad Puffin)

are Mr. Airplane Man's primary instrument airplane?

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, 14 April 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link

Also, if you don't feel transported by tambourine solos perhaps you will enjoy solos on the the maracas and cajón:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlhYAKfilYk

Made in the Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 April 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link

But yeah, the truth be told I once asked my self exactly the same questions as you, YMP, about what was the nature of his “song.”

Made in the Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 April 2018 02:24 (six years ago) link

If his primary instrument is guitar, then we would call him Mr. Guitar Man. Or Mr. Guitar Man Who Also Happens to Have a Tambourine.
There was a street musician in my town for a few summers, when I was a teenager, an American with a guitar playing rock classics, and I'd often run into him with friends when out partying late. He had these small film containers half-filled with rice that he would use as rhythm eggs, and at some point he gave me one of those, said it was a "wonder-shaker", and I accompanied him for a few songs. I took it home with me and I keep it to this day. We called him the wonder-shaker man, and I always think of him when I think of mr. Tambourine Man.

so many lines from SHB regularly pop into my mind, especially
Twenty years of schoolin’
and they put you on the day shift

Me and my brother went to the same high-school and my brother got real fed up with it at some point. I admitted to him that I had also been fed up with it and that for a long time while riding my bike to school I would sing from the top of my lungs (in Danish translation): "I AIN'T GONNA GO TO [name of school] NO MORE!". To my surprise, he told me that he'd been singing the exact same silly translation for weeks!

This album rules.

niels, Saturday, 14 April 2018 09:21 (six years ago) link

If I had to rate these songs, I think I'd put them in the following order (favorite to least).

"It's All Over Now, Baby Blue"
"Maggie's Farm"
"Love Minus Zero/No Limit
"Subterranean Homesick Blues"
"It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)"
"Bob Dylan's 115th Dream"
"Gates of Eden"
"She Belongs to Me"
"On the Road Again"
"Mr. Tambourine Man"
"Outlaw Blues"

Darin, Saturday, 14 April 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

There is no one in the history of ever who has "played a song" on the tambourine

as usual with Dylan im pretty sure it's half earnest half jerking your chain but mostly there for color.

for me it conjures up travelling minstrels, saying "guitar player" would be a bit too modern, it's as much of an oddly formed anachronism as Dylan's role as pop "folk" musician. on that tip tambourine is an accessible instrument to all whereas guitar has skill/technical barriers to entry, it's a bit of communal creation/breaking down barriers between artist and audience.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 14 April 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link

i want to say also it took me some time but eventually it clicked that Lou Reed is trying to be Dylan on so many VU tracks ("baby be gooood/ do what you shouuuld/ you know it'll be alriiight").

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 14 April 2018 15:57 (six years ago) link

ah im regretting not voting for "It's All Over Now Baby Blue". the chord change where he dives into "the carpet too is moving under you" is so unexpected it feels like like an emotional sucker punch. the rest of the song is just standard I/IV/V and the sudden unsteadiness never fails to take me back. it's like the brief time when you are going down a set of stairs and miss a step. or when you are in a relationship and someone says something and you get this feeling in your stomach. so beautiful, that fall.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 15 April 2018 02:12 (six years ago) link

and on that line!

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 15 April 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link

Huh! For whatever reason, LMZ/NL has never really done all that much for me. I like it fine, just surprised to discover it's a consensus favorite against so many heavy-hitters.

Clearly plenty of other people have seen something in the song, even beyond the "everybody covers every Dylan song" effect. A little searching turns up versions by Buck Owens, Leon Russell, the Walker Brothers, Joan Baez, Rod Stewart, Fleetwood Mac, Judy Collins, Jackson Browne, the Turtles, Nana Mouskouri, and Ricky Nelson. I thought I'd heard the last one before, but realized belatedly I was thinking of his cover of "She Belongs To Me" - guy was into this album!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWPrtfE-TBI

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

Huh! For whatever reason, LMZ/NL has never really done all that much for me. I like it fine, just surprised to discover it's a consensus favorite against so many heavy-hitters.

yea same

marcos, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link

it's one of my favorite Dylan melodies tbh

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link

heh Love Minus Zero feels like coffee shop autopilot to me, one of the least impressive tracks on the album (shrug emoji)

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link

Thirteenth Floor Elevators version of "It's All Over Now (Baby Blue)" is one of my all time favorite Dylan covers. That Joyce Carol Oates short story is really good too, that was a story that I got assigned in freshman lit in collage and really liked.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joyce-carol-oates-on-dylans-its-all-over-now-baby-blue-1432045329

earlnash, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 01:22 (six years ago) link

heh Love Minus Zero feels like coffee shop autopilot to me, one of the least impressive tracks on the album (shrug emoji)

But one of the very, very few Dylan songs where he sounds entirely guileless, a pure and beautiful emotion expressed in exquisite language. Undoes me every time.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 06:11 (six years ago) link

has there been a Dylan vs Rage Against the Machine “Maggie’s Farm” poll?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 06:14 (six years ago) link

Surprised "Mr Tambourine Man" didn't get more votes. Though I voted for LMZ so I'm not complaining.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 07:26 (six years ago) link

that's a great cover by Nelson, Dylan probably appreciated it (iirc he has only nice things to say abt Nelson in Chronicles)

niels, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 09:51 (six years ago) link

I'd choose She Belongs to Me over LMZ, I think Dylan does the cynical love portrait better than the sincere, also I just love the melody

both rule though

niels, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 09:53 (six years ago) link

well, maaaybe Dylan's fondness for wordplay amphetamine gets the best of him in the 3rd verse

https://www.brainyquote.com/photos_tr/en/b/bobdylan/154487/bobdylan1-2x.jpg

niels, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 11:05 (six years ago) link

lol that's what i think of the last verse of mr. tambourine man. but both are great

flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

DAMN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofvsowhWPbc

flappy bird, Saturday, 1 December 2018 05:20 (five years ago) link

quite faithful!

niels, Saturday, 1 December 2018 10:39 (five years ago) link

yeah I was surprised at that for 1976

flappy bird, Monday, 3 December 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link


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