lol the song "No Fat Burger" basically describes where my life is headed (except fortunately nobody in my fam has heart issues)
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:12 (six years ago) link
this is a good album but it sounds like someone on the label sent the Saint Vitus producer to the Descendents booth by mistake
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:56 (six years ago) link
Seein em right now for first time
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 April 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link
Hahah whoops
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link
1981 or so: "Hey do you ever think a T-shirt with our logo and main visual image will appear worldwide on a US government hearing about trying to overturn an election and have a lot of people wondering what the hell." "Hmm, nah."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
Hahaha for those who can’t parse that the proud boy face tattoo guy about to testify before the 1/6 committee is wearing a Descendants T-shirt Another vote in favor of me never liking this band 🙃
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link
Oath Keeper rather than Proud Boy but it is just a distinction of which stupid asshole you follow.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link
Friend on FB: "He wants to be stereotyped. He wants to be classified."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link
An unsurprising update.
We completely disavow groups like the Oath Keepers and in no way condone their hateful ideology.— DESCENDENTS (@descendents) July 12, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link
Descendents definitely had some problematic elements in their lyrics on Milo goes to college, though more of the typical "high school kid misogyny" type. nothing like THIS.
ultimately though, they weren't political, they sang about girls and poop and Oath Keepers like girls and poop
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link
It always starts with misogyny and juvenile humor
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link
All I know is the drive-thru song from "Pump Up the Volume," which is like the punk version of, I dunno, Napalm Death's "You Suffer."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link
xpost Yeah, like the "OK" sign or all the alt-right memes. "We're just joking!"
I never really gave a shit about the Descendents one way or the other, but I'm familiar enough with their discography to believe that it's a miiiiiiiighty big stretch to draw a straight line from them to the Oath Keepers.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link
"relax it's just a joke"
"get a sense of humor, it's a joke"
"you're misinterpreting me"
"i was exaggerating for effect"
"hang mike pence"
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link
of course it's a big stretch -- how it starts isn't how it always inevitably ends
no, no, you have to understand, it's ironic hyperbole, like when morrissey sings "hang the DJ," nobody says *he's* racist
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link
SST had better strike while the iron is hot and whip up some more MILO vinyls
― beamish13, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link
"Hope" is like a proto-incel anthem for better or worse
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
Someone who wants to destroy the capitol being into a loud punk band with many irony-drenched songs about not fitting is not the craziest thing I’ve ever heard
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link
*not fitting in, that is
Otm about Hope.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link
Jamie Raskin promoted a Mission of Burma show on Harvard campus my freshman year, 1981. It’s possible these are the only two in the room who know the Descendants pic.twitter.com/1ER33ZUz12— Damon K (@dada_drummer) July 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link
Maybe not a straight line but the Descendants/ALL have always reflected a "both sides are equally bad!" plus "we aren't really homophobes it is just a joke!" plus Milo's aggrieved nice guy who can't get laid schtick plus being firmly in the SST libertarian wing that I can't really say I am surprised, they are touchstones of male suburban nerd ennui for a reason
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link
that describes their 80s output, but nothing since
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link
they removed several songs from their setlists nowadays due to some of the problematic stuff, namely "I'm not a Loser" and "Pervert".
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link
when I was Milo's age on Milo Goes to College, I was still a Fundamentalist, pro-life, anti-Affirmative Action incel.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link
I would say it describes "Everything Sux" which is the last time I really engaged with them and the newer stuff might be different but I can see how people who grew up on the "classics" could also be down with the Oathkeepers or Proud Boys or whatevs. Punk bands having problematic audiences aren't really a new thing.
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link
Oh, I absolutely get why someone like that might have been big into the Descendents, I just get a little weird about drawing a straight line and blaming the music directly for who these doofuses became or the choices the made. It's ugly when the right uses it to excuse school shootings and I try not to fall into that trap elsewhere.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link
I just get a little weird about drawing a straight line and blaming the music directly for who these doofuses became or the choices the madeTo be clear, no one did that!
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link
There were a few posts nodding in that direction though.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link
Milo had a heart attack last night followed by bypass surgery and is in recovery. All Descendents shows are canceled until further notice.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 29 July 2023 06:18 (eight months ago) link