Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

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Billy making do with a broken low E string like a minute into the song

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link

it....clearly is! xps

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

this isn't the first time i'll say this itt but jimmy's a fucking monster

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

since i started learning drums a year ago i've begun to understand exactly what he's doing on each track and it's incomprehensible and humbling

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

he's also an extremely busy player but few of his parts ever feel busy which is remarkable

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link

so breezy and musical yet so dense

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link

Jimmy is probably my favourite rock drummer ever

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link

Bury Me is so good. That wound up placing high on my ballot, even beating a certain other great Jimmy track. I never owned this on CD so I was less familiar with it before now. Bury Me, Snail, Rhinoceros, and Crush are the ones I love most.

jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link

it was so frustrating seeing them in 94 & watching Billy keep getting ahead of Jimmy, trying to speed up the songs midway through. of course Jimmy was up to it but it felt like a dick move & it didn't make the songs better because they kept changing awkwardly.

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/RLZ4J0N.jpg
4. Pisces Iscariot
140 points, 25 votes, 3 #1 votes

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link

well i wasn't expecting adore to beat pisces with this crowd so i concede that my first favorite album of all time is prob too high for most

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

I rarely pull PI out but it really is the most cohesive outtakes record ever

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link

i more readily listen to pisces than sd these days. also i almost made "whir" no. 1 on my ballot

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

Same for me, and I've 'Whir' up there too.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link

Pisces is very solid for an outtakes comp but most of it does feel like outtakes for a reason to me. The few tracks that don't though are incredible - Blew Away is James' best, Starla is great obviously, no idea how Obscured didn't make Gish. Whir is nice too but I wouldn't really trade anything on Siamese Dream for it.

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

fwiw I rated Adore really high on albums but only picked 1 song for my ballot. maybe a lot of others did the same? it works the best as a regular album out of all of them imo

xp Obscured was recorded for SD

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link

I did the same, flappy

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link

fwiw I rated Adore really high on albums but only picked 1 song for my ballot. maybe a lot of others did the same? it works the best as a regular album out of all of them imo

oh good i'm glad someone else thinks this

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Ic8dhTa.jpg
3. Adore
156 points, 22 votes, 6 #1 votes

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

SD is so cohesive, even monochromatic in its sound, and even though the songs on Adore can be pretty different in style or production (like Appels + Oranjes vs. Dusty + Pistol Pete vs. Ava Adore vs. To Sheila), the feeling of wandering and being lost runs through Adore in a really compelling way. and the way it begins so hopefully with To Sheila and ends on such a down note with Blank Page.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

I think SD would just edge out Adore as best to listen to as a whole for me these days. Adore is a little too long but I suppose that does add to the feeling of getting lost in it. Shame through to Blank Page is probably my favourite sequence on any of their albums.

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link

just realized I still have my original CD copies of PI and MCIS, o happy day

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link

they're similar in the sense that they're both really desperate and reaching, big gamble records, where on SD they were determined not to make a dog of an album and go back to working in record stores and serving coffee, and on Adore they're searching like I said and trying to come to terms with losing Jimmy.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link

and that's not even getting into the lyrics

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

I don't really know how to reconcile 'Adore is too long' with 'Eye should probably have been put on it somewhere' and the only thing I'd definitely cut is Annie-Dog

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

Shame through to Blank Page is probably my favourite sequence on any of their albums

otm. hit after hit. the atmosphere they get out of a song as simple as "shame" is remarkable

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

Gish is sounding pretty nice now. "Snail" is really good. Maybe it just sounded too much like other things of the time in the 90s, idk? P sure Adore will never really be my thing but it was def a daring move for them.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

XP

That makes three of us!

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

whoever said Snail is like the MCIS epics condensed into 4 minutes is so so so OTM

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

every guitar line in "snail" is fucking amazing

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

it was painful to not be able to vote for it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

my #10

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

3:24 this octave progression omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS-ThN4aEDU

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

When you wake up you're all weak / POLLING your life away

jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/UcjcOSp.jpg
2. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
218 points, 29 votes, 10 #1 votes

https://i.imgur.com/ZL2EDRT.jpg
1. Siamese Dream
252 points, 32 votes, 13 #1 votes

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

fair

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

Justice

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

Siamese Dream
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Gish
Pisces Iscariot
Adore

I voted for more Mellon Collie tracks, but SD is the albumest album

jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

hard to argue with these results

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

sd is really beautifully paced for a record that's an hour long

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

close enough

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link

re: results

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link

I can't believe gish is only no.5. By far their most fascinating album if you ask me. So full of psychedelic goodness. The drumming always totally kills me. A monster of an album. The only album after that i liked was mellon collie as it was so varied.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

first album i ever bought on CD. zero regrets.

xpost to SD pacing comment

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

also alex otm – had i voted, i woulda had Gish as #2.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link

I had Gish #2. I ignored it for a long time and was blown away when I finally looked backward from SD.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

everyone feels so locked in for 45 minutes.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link

sd is really beautifully paced for a record that's an hour long

really all of their pre-Machina albums are perfectly paced, Billy's deep listening habits paid off when it came time to arrange his own records

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link

Full album results:

1 Siamese Dream 252 32 13
2 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 218 29 10
3 Adore 156 22 6
4 Pisces Iscariot 140 25 3
5 Gish 126 24 2
6 MACHINA/the machines of God 38 9 0
7 Machina II/The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music 16 7 0
8 The Aeroplane Flies High 12 3 0
9 1979 EP 10 2 0
10 Lull EP 6 2 0
10 Ogilala 6 1 0
12 Rarities and B-Sides 4 1 0
14 Earphoria 2 1 0
14 Zero EP 2 1 0

ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link

Billy's deep listening habits paid off when it came time to arrange his own records

I will choose to interpret this as meaning that Corgan was a seasoned participant in Pauline Oliveros's sonic meditation exercises.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link

that is only about 20k plays per poster, and I certainly did my part

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 April 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

I didn't use Spotify at all but I will take partial credit for this bump

flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Really regret not voting for Drown. Essential. The road is long...

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:14 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

bought tickets to see them play live for my first time. setlists from last year are pretty good, so I'm cautiously optimistic for a good show. probably should listen to Cyr to prepare.

Bixby in a Samsung I know it's Siri-esque (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 February 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link


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