Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

I forgot that Wretzky and Iha ever dated.

My favourite songs on it are Rhinoceros and Snail which are the closest to where they went on Siamese Dream. The rest feels very different in sensibility to anything else they did pretty much.

lmao the intro to that video sund4r posted

Long haired Jimmy is the weirdest

i like james' taste in dresses

If Adore is above Gish then it's too high.

it is not

Billy making do with a broken low E string like a minute into the song

it....clearly is! xps

this isn't the first time i'll say this itt but jimmy's a fucking monster

since i started learning drums a year ago i've begun to understand exactly what he's doing on each track and it's incomprehensible and humbling

he's also an extremely busy player but few of his parts ever feel busy which is remarkable

so breezy and musical yet so dense

Jimmy is probably my favourite rock drummer ever

Bury Me is so good. That wound up placing high on my ballot, even beating a certain other great Jimmy track. I never owned this on CD so I was less familiar with it before now. Bury Me, Snail, Rhinoceros, and Crush are the ones I love most.

it was so frustrating seeing them in 94 & watching Billy keep getting ahead of Jimmy, trying to speed up the songs midway through. of course Jimmy was up to it but it felt like a dick move & it didn't make the songs better because they kept changing awkwardly.

https://i.imgur.com/RLZ4J0N.jpg
4. Pisces Iscariot
140 points, 25 votes, 3 #1 votes

well i wasn't expecting adore to beat pisces with this crowd so i concede that my first favorite album of all time is prob too high for most

I rarely pull PI out but it really is the most cohesive outtakes record ever

i more readily listen to pisces than sd these days. also i almost made "whir" no. 1 on my ballot

Same for me, and I've 'Whir' up there too.

Pisces is very solid for an outtakes comp but most of it does feel like outtakes for a reason to me. The few tracks that don't though are incredible - Blew Away is James' best, Starla is great obviously, no idea how Obscured didn't make Gish. Whir is nice too but I wouldn't really trade anything on Siamese Dream for it.

fwiw I rated Adore really high on albums but only picked 1 song for my ballot. maybe a lot of others did the same? it works the best as a regular album out of all of them imo

xp Obscured was recorded for SD

I did the same, flappy

fwiw I rated Adore really high on albums but only picked 1 song for my ballot. maybe a lot of others did the same? it works the best as a regular album out of all of them imo

oh good i'm glad someone else thinks this

https://i.imgur.com/Ic8dhTa.jpg
3. Adore
156 points, 22 votes, 6 #1 votes

SD is so cohesive, even monochromatic in its sound, and even though the songs on Adore can be pretty different in style or production (like Appels + Oranjes vs. Dusty + Pistol Pete vs. Ava Adore vs. To Sheila), the feeling of wandering and being lost runs through Adore in a really compelling way. and the way it begins so hopefully with To Sheila and ends on such a down note with Blank Page.

I think SD would just edge out Adore as best to listen to as a whole for me these days. Adore is a little too long but I suppose that does add to the feeling of getting lost in it. Shame through to Blank Page is probably my favourite sequence on any of their albums.

just realized I still have my original CD copies of PI and MCIS, o happy day

they're similar in the sense that they're both really desperate and reaching, big gamble records, where on SD they were determined not to make a dog of an album and go back to working in record stores and serving coffee, and on Adore they're searching like I said and trying to come to terms with losing Jimmy.

and that's not even getting into the lyrics

I don't really know how to reconcile 'Adore is too long' with 'Eye should probably have been put on it somewhere' and the only thing I'd definitely cut is Annie-Dog

Shame through to Blank Page is probably my favourite sequence on any of their albums

otm. hit after hit. the atmosphere they get out of a song as simple as "shame" is remarkable

Gish is sounding pretty nice now. "Snail" is really good. Maybe it just sounded too much like other things of the time in the 90s, idk? P sure Adore will never really be my thing but it was def a daring move for them.

XP

That makes three of us!

whoever said Snail is like the MCIS epics condensed into 4 minutes is so so so OTM

every guitar line in "snail" is fucking amazing

it was painful to not be able to vote for it

my #10

3:24 this octave progression omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS-ThN4aEDU

When you wake up you're all weak / POLLING your life away

https://i.imgur.com/UcjcOSp.jpg
2. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
218 points, 29 votes, 10 #1 votes

https://i.imgur.com/ZL2EDRT.jpg
1. Siamese Dream
252 points, 32 votes, 13 #1 votes

fair

Justice

Siamese Dream
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Gish
Pisces Iscariot
Adore

I voted for more Mellon Collie tracks, but SD is the albumest album

hard to argue with these results

sd is really beautifully paced for a record that's an hour long

close enough

re: results

I can't believe gish is only no.5. By far their most fascinating album if you ask me. So full of psychedelic goodness. The drumming always totally kills me. A monster of an album. The only album after that i liked was mellon collie as it was so varied.

"moaner"

not much live footage of Billy playing piano on the Adore tour (or at all really, until his solo record & tour last year)

― flappy bird, Friday, April 13, 2018 9:07 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i saw that fashion awards performance on tv when it happened! it's probably why "crestfallen" is one of my favorite songs

I can't believe only DAM & I voted for Rotten Apples

btw don't think i ever posted this summer 1993 performance of Hummer from Fruit Bat Salad... it's sooo much slower than almost all of the SD-era shows, really it's one of the few existing recordings (and only video afaik) of them playing it at the same speed as it is on SD. anyway it's a sweet video, they're playing at the Unicorn a year later, July 1993, band has already way outgrown the club they're in, it's bizarre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E_C6L2D_pY

like for context this was the same club only a year before. they all sing jimmy happy birthday at the beginning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wEEkb4zBwU

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashingpumpkins/comments/8eefpl

Whaddaya think? I think we did this.

definitely ILM, and also SP doing a tour to promote this thread

that is only about 20k plays per poster, and I certainly did my part

I didn't use Spotify at all but I will take partial credit for this bump

Really regret not voting for Drown. Essential. The road is long...

bought tickets to see them play live for my first time. setlists from last year are pretty good, so I'm cautiously optimistic for a good show. probably should listen to Cyr to prepare.