I finally bought my copy of Elseq recently, been enjoying it greatly. Pondering if i need the live ones too.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 14:03 (six years ago) link
guys
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link
been listening off and on for the last hour, it's really kicking in right now
― alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link
you should have taken it at least half an hour before the set
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link
Jamming to acdwn2 right now, it's good, that is all
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:06 (five years ago) link
banger
― you bet, nancy (map), Sunday, 20 May 2018 04:16 (five years ago) link
I remember when Exai came out I complained that this was too much autechre to take in at once.If this trend continues, their next album is going to be 8 hours long― silverfish, Friday, May 20, 2016 1:16 PM (two years ago)
If this trend continues, their next album is going to be 8 hours long
― silverfish, Friday, May 20, 2016 1:16 PM (two years ago)
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
it'll just be an endless generative stream that plays forever
― My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
i do wonder if they can go back to making normal-length albums again
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
an album of lots of tiny tracks would be interesting
― My name is the Pope and in the 90s I smoked a lot of dope (dog latin), Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
https://img.discogs.com/YJ-eY9jmklNUK_Pyz2Lrt6A9Gs4=/fit-in/600x745/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-43153-1485307171-6839.jpeg.jpg
― lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link
ah well click on it yerself
― lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link
The only pre recorded minidisc I own...
― koogs, Thursday, 28 June 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
me too, and almost certainly for more people than any other pre-recorded monodisc.
― lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
monodosc, sorry i have a cold.
― lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 28 June 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
Folks, I think NTS 3 may be the best of the batch.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 July 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link
Although I haven't nearly digested either, my gut feeling is that NTS is quite a bit more enjoyable than Elseq. The tracks feel more varied, more melodic, a little less pure abstraction.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 7 July 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
Absolutely - I know NTS pretty thoroughly now, and tracks by name even, whereas despite spending similar time with Elseq I still skate off the surface of most tracks (notable exceptions being "c16 deep tread", "eastre", "curvcaten", "mesh cinereaL", "pendulu hv moda" et al.).
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 7 July 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link
I don't think I ever made it all the way to the end of elseq. Having NTS come out once a week really helped - it felt like extremely pleasurable homework to listen to each one before the next one showed up. (The metal band Beastmaker recently released eight four-song EPs in three batches - 3, 3, and 2 - I'm still wading through them, and I kinda wish they'd chosen to put out one a week, too.)
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 8 July 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link
the last few tracks on elseq 5 are some of the best tracks on the whole thing.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 8 July 2018 06:50 (five years ago) link
i immersed myself in elseq and it feels hugely texturally varied, a landscape with peaks and lakes, forests and blasted heaths. nts feels much more homogeneous to me right now but i'm sure that will change in time.
― lana del boy (ledge), Sunday, 8 July 2018 08:15 (five years ago) link
NTS 2 > NTS 1 > NTS 4 > NTS 3
― octobeard, Monday, 9 July 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link
There should probably be a poll
NTS 4 >>>>>>>>> NTS 3 > NTS 2 > NTS 1
(there should probably be a poll)
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link
can it wait till a while after physical versions arrive
― Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link
Find it pointless to even consider ranking NTS 1-4, but "all end" is beyond compare when I need that kind of thing. Each has at least 2 uniquely brilliant tracks. I haven't yet listened to the whole thing in a block but I am looking forward to it.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link
voilvoic is kind of my secret favorite on this whole thing.
― macropuente (map), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link
i tried listening to a pared down version of this but i ended up missing every track i left off.
even t1a1 which eventually finds its zone.
my favorite ambient-ish track might just be "carefree counter dronal" - bright and beautiful.
still transported to different planets by "13 ctrl" "four of seven" and "column thirteen"
― macropuente (map), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link
and the madness of "north spiral".
I love the LOL Autechre of calling the first track "t1a1".
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link
Seeing as there are so many tracks how would you all feel about a mini ballot poll for the NTS Sessions? I'm not necessarily volunteering but I think it might be fun.
Say, top 8 tracks ranked or unranked, and a sessions 1-4 ranked side poll. Wouldn't need a big production results thread or anything.
Not before the boxes are out there anyway.
*Not quite sure how the points are supposed to be weighted but haven't given it much thought.
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 10:43 (five years ago) link
a mini ballot poll
A shimriPOLL casual, if you will.
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 11:47 (five years ago) link
I like this idea
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link
pendulu hv moda is so magnificent
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
so much of what they do is so dark that when they decide to go sunny it's like a vitamin d overdose
― macropuente (map), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
It's certainly magnificent, maybe my favourite of all their recent releases. And I guess it is quite sunny, yeah, until the grey clouds roll in and the alien mutant thunder rumbles low over the hills.
― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 09:36 (five years ago) link
Returning to this release my first thought these days is how poorly mastered it is. Compared to NTS (excellent return to form mastering wise), Exai and especially Oversteps, this is overly compressed, narrow sounding and in your face. Shame, since this is some their best work.
― octobeard, Thursday, 22 November 2018 00:51 (five years ago) link
otm
― macropuente (map), Thursday, 22 November 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link
Definitely one of their harsher sounding collections.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 22 November 2018 01:37 (five years ago) link
Not sure of the authenticity of this but seems to be 400+(!) 1-2 minute pieces with accompanying slit-screen animations.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5ow3ZyXAhopA4NUdSIuAfTCvWTemihut
― Pyschocandles, Thursday, 22 November 2018 02:46 (five years ago) link
^^ ugh my bad. didn't see the other thread.
― Pyschocandles, Thursday, 22 November 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link
My God I never even considered the possibility of needing to shell out for Ae remasters some day
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 22 November 2018 04:01 (five years ago) link
It's kind of nuts that they need to be mastered (but I recall Frank Arkwright's name on many of their best releases). I'd imagined it might be possible to run the files through some kind of mastering algorithm as a final step, but on reflection that would mean it was possible for any digitally recorded music, and there are clearly people who are very good at mastering.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 22 November 2018 04:31 (five years ago) link
I've thought the same about elseq. The harshness and compression might be baked in, but perhaps not.
Noel Summerville did NTS and I marvel at how nice it sounds. Creamy smooth 'texture' but plenty of detail and impact.
― Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:20 (five years ago) link
What crosses my mind in terms of practicalities is that there's obvs a significant cost to getting that much material mastered. NTS was put out by Warp so presumably they will have paid mastering and production costs upfront but elseq was essentially self-released Maybe they could put a few quid back and get it redone. Wishful thinking.
― Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link
Noel Summerville has mastered all their main releases since Draft 7.30, apparently, with the possible exception of elseq.
― Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:42 (five years ago) link
Further confirmation that I don't have 'golden ears'. Exai is the only one that's consistently given me audio fatigue.
― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:52 (five years ago) link
Exai is quite dense and mid-rangey, perhaps. But that's more just a function of the music itself.
― Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:09 (five years ago) link
audio aural fatigue, of course. Listening to elseq 5 now, maybe it's just the power of suggestion but it does sound slightly harsh and thin. You fuckers!
― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:17 (five years ago) link
I'm listening to this now for the first time in a while and am liking the harshness.
― silverfish, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link