oh god he's gone universalist on us
no wait this is even crazier than universalism
he's saying that hitler just, you know, vanished?
as for matthew 19:16-22, francis is a pretty outspoken advocate of jesus' advice in those verses...
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Friday, 30 March 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link
idk a lot of Biblical scholars have claimed "Hell" is a mistranslation of "sheol" (which should really mean "grave") and that bad souls are merely extinguished rather than forced through the spatial nightmare of Hell.
Bart Ehrman writes some interesting musings across his several books on the matter.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 March 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link
it just strikes me as kind of weird that the goal of all human existence in buddhism is what happens by default to the worst people in the world in certain strains of christian thought
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Friday, 30 March 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link
tbh living forever in any form sounds like Hell to me so Buddhism otm
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 March 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link
right, i mean absent the curse of the survival instinct no so-called "heaven" could ever tempt me to reject the gift of nonbeing. i feel like francis and i aren't exactly on the same page here.
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Friday, 30 March 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link
Hi I'm Satan https://t.co/rbpoSaSlCR— Iggle piggle (@1gglepiggle) October 1, 2018
― mark s, Monday, 1 October 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link
I think we're in it
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
bump
theres at least one ilxor who afaict believes in hell
this is minblowing to me
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 September 2023 09:07 (one year ago) link
altho they dont upthread
confused now
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 September 2023 09:09 (one year ago) link
I ain’t no hippie, but in response to Neanderthal and Kate’s annihilationism riffing upthread, if the options are between eternal unity with the divine, and none-existence, I know which one I’m taking
― H.P, Saturday, 9 September 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link
When I examine all the possible origins for the idea of Hell as a place of eternal punishment for eternally anguished souls who shall never escape their extreme pain and humiliation for all time, not one of them makes any sense to me in terms of morality, physics, philosophy or divinity. The only hypothesis that makes the slightest sense to me is that Hell is a falsehood that was concocted solely to frighten credulous people into better behavior by well-meaning but stupid religious leaders who thought they were doing a good deed by teaching this grotesque doctrine to those who respected them.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 04:13 (seven months ago) link
In this world, we're just beginnin'To understand the miracle of livin'Baby, I was afraid beforeBut I'm not afraid anymoreOoh, baby, do you know what that's worth?Ooh, hell is a place on Earth
― Florin Cuchares, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 04:25 (seven months ago) link