right now what's happening in part is the no platforming that (rightly imo) is pushing against i.e. 'free speech' defenses of Bannon giving a speech at U of C, or ppl defending "good writers" who also happen to believe in the bell curve or whatever as Atlantic or Times columnists. this kind of trolling, or pretending at "objectivity" to give cover to i.e. race hate as if it were a thing worth serious debate.
ppl were doing that with xxx in the press but the press was kind of irrelevant and he did an end run around them bc youtube/soundcloud/message boards/social media etc get the word out, transform the debate into an interpersonal one rather than one about platforms bc no one sees spaces like youtube as a publication, but as a neutral site
is how i see it
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 29 March 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
except in this case the no-platforming accomplishes nothing; the argument for no-platforming is it causes the bad actors in question to give up and take their nazi ball home; clearly, there is no risk of that happening here
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 29 March 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
right thats what im trying to say!
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 29 March 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
no problem, misread
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 29 March 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link
people doin good work on this thread I gotta say, enjoying the ~~~discourse~~~
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link
he's on the new weeknd album apparently
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
perhaps the look-at-me-self-righteousness of xxx and certain types of wokeness might even be connected in some way.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link
This seems like a crucial read.
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/music/the-real-story-of-rapper-xxxtentacion-10410980
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
Nearly two years after they first met, Ayala now rents a room in a house 20 minutes south of Onfroy's place. It's the first room she's had to herself. "I'm saving up to move somewhere else," she says, "somewhere in the country, where there aren't any people."
a grim and disturbing read.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
Some discussion of him on the mumble rap 2017 thread but now that we’re about to see him break into the mainstream he deserves his own thread.Album got dropped on spotify one week ago and its songs are creeping all the global and viral charts. Billboard is still not acknowledging the streams but it’s safe to say Sad will take the singles charts and the album will take the top 200 in the following weeks.So, what say you ILM? Worthy of the insane hype?― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:13 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkffs― imago, Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:16 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkfuck this scumbag abuser foreverhttps://pitchfork.com/thepitch/xxxtentacions-reported-victim-details-grim-pattern-of-abuse-in-testimony/― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:27 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink^^^^― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:55 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Album got dropped on spotify one week ago and its songs are creeping all the global and viral charts. Billboard is still not acknowledging the streams but it’s safe to say Sad will take the singles charts and the album will take the top 200 in the following weeks.
So, what say you ILM? Worthy of the insane hype?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:13 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ffs
― imago, Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:16 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fuck this scumbag abuser foreverhttps://pitchfork.com/thepitch/xxxtentacions-reported-victim-details-grim-pattern-of-abuse-in-testimony/
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:27 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:55 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
how did this thread not end right here?
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 23:31 (five years ago) link
cause soundcloud kids kept listening to him
― austinb, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 03:44 (five years ago) link
that's a very sad final paragraph to the piece
"sad" (the song) did not end up taking off on radio as much as i thought it would, i am relieved to say. (obviously it was still a big hit tho + his fans were gonna stream it and the rest of his music constantly regardless of whether radio gave it any further exposure.)
― dyl, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link
horrifying read
― niels, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 10:05 (five years ago) link
Take, for instance, Hillary Clinton, he says. "She ran [for president] and she wasn't killed for it. That says everything."
― imago, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 10:34 (five years ago) link
yeah fuck him. in this time of endless music availability giving truck to guys like this makes no sense on a 'you can listen to anything else' level although it totally tracks on a 'how does one stand out from the crowd' level
― maura, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
holy shit
http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/18/xxxtentacion-shot-dead-miami/
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link
Live by the sword, die by the sword
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link
oh damn
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 June 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, June 18, 2018 3:42 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
one of the worst posts ive ever seen on this board
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link
He's gone from "Dead" to "No pulse" to "Critical condition." By tonight, he'll have just been hit with a bb.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link
he was just pronounced dead
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
ilx posts age like milk
He'll be missed. By someone. Probably.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
everyone here is so woke they'll dance on a 20 year old's grave
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
Shakey inspired obit goes here
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
xp. ah yes, unperson, the most famously woke ilxor
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link
everything about the x story sucks and this is just the awful kicker
― paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
friendly reminder you can always say nothing
― Simon H., Monday, 18 June 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link
This is all just horrible. R.i.p.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link
spent five minutes on twitter and reminded that the apparent need for takes, across the spectrum, is just the worst
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link
ops to simon. i find saying something mildly flippant or shitty about a person who was objectively monstrous who has just died a lot less unpalatable than people RIPing him but ymmv
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 18 June 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link
xps even fuck
i guess we could put them on a spectrum of stupid to stupider, or we could agree they're both stupid
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link
basically
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link
i don't think that saying something shitty about a recently dead dude who stuck a carving fork in his girlfriend's vagina is that bad
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:21 (five years ago) link
or particularly stupid
I don’t think performative glee at the murder of a 20 year old, even an abusive 20 year old, im broad daylight is especially righteous
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link
Both are true
― flappy bird, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link
i find saying something mildly flippant or shitty about a person who was objectively monstrous who has just died a lot less unpalatable than people RIPing him but ymmv
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, June 18, 2018 6:51 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
x2. Obviously this is a tragedy--a talented (or so I am told) person cut down so young and so senselessly will always be that--but the tone of this thread basically going from "fuck this scumbag forever" to "let's commission a mural" just because someone did what a lot of people he's hurt probably (and justifiably) wanted to do and murdered the guy is eh a little weird
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link
Lol who is commissioning a mural itt
― flappy bird, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link
i did. i commissioned one.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link
We'll all have to look at him now.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:31 (five years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link
Obviously I was exaggerating but if you don't think some enterprising ghoul is designing a memorial t-shirt RIGHT THIS SECOND you are a far less cynical a person than me
and yeah actually I would not be surprised at all to see a mural. Dunno if you've noticed, but it's candle in the fucking wind on Twitter about this guy right now
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link
RIP XXX98.3K Tweets
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link
can't wait to see the reactions when "sad!" hits number 1 in two weeks
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 June 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link
So that's how it's pronounced https://t.co/ip9DfBCDkf— Mike F (@mikefossey) June 18, 2018
― flopson, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link
Ppl
Obviously I was exaggerating but if you don't think some enterprising ghoul is designing a memorial t-shirt RIGHT THIS SECOND you are a far less cynical a person than meand yeah actually I would not be surprised at all to see a mural. Dunno if you've noticed, but it's candle in the fucking wind on Twitter about this guy right now
― flappy bird, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link
Twitter is a fucking nightmare now
― flappy bird, Monday, 18 June 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link