Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

https://nypost.com/2012/04/01/how-crazy-days-and-nights-fooled-hollywood/

sure, i mean there's literally a 'some of this stuff is fiction' disclaimer at the bottom of every page. anyway here's some more recent coverage

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/10/crazy-days-and-nights-enty-interview

https://www.thedailybeast.com/whos-next-the-mysterious-blind-item-king-who-exposed-weinstein-spacey-and-lauer-before-the-media

Like, I'm saying, that if someone can successfully connect the dots from the last 20 years of Perez Hilton/TMZ "hahahaha Britney/Lindsay/Amanda is such a TRAINWRECK" to "Children who suffer from sexual abuse often have tumultuous adulthoods and also that abuse came from inside the industry" it might cause some amount of reflection on just what the fuck we've been doing

otm + corey haim :(

no I saw it somewhere else. but maybe it was fake, dunno. let's think about this though: either there has been a concerted effort for years to bring down dan schneider fueled by the internet and people who hate him; or he's a fucking creep. his work speaks for itself and certainly lends credence to the latter.

amanda bynes did tweet (then retract the tweets) about her dad being abusive, maybe that's what you're thinking of

like most gossip sites, CDAN gets things right sometimes. And the Post has been in the bag with publicists for years, so it's reasonable for wags and pimps to find useful tools to wage public battles over "truth" or "facts".

It was lore for a long time that they don't hold up because a) there wasn't much case law a couple of decades ago, b) it's still expensive for a company to sue, and c) enforceability/damages is more obvious in some industries than others. So, it's not that they don't "hold up" as much as most of the time, it's not worth it for a company to pursue it. If the damages are obvious however...

xp

tbh I looked at that CDAN site once this week and most of the blind items are vague enough that they could apply to a handful of people

maybe there's a strong nostradamus/stopped clock effect thing going on

"This B list former child star recently got out of rehab, but her friends think she's headed back"

"I sense that you are worried about a loved one or relative whose name includes the letter... E"

An aside, but would be interesting to interview Michael Musto about the past year and blind items.

Would love to know how he ever knows who is playing who

the celeb gossip industry's been going for ~100 years now and are likely making more money off exploiting people than ever i dont see them stopping

I noticed in the UK some of that press has been adapting to the current climate with lots of "LOOK AT THIS RAPIST MONSTER"-type covers.

profanity standards aside didnt Fatty Arbuckle get the same treatment in 1921?

Like it may cause a fundamental rethinking of tabloid culture writ large

― Whiney G. Weingarten

peter thiel tried to warn us

profanity standards aside didnt Fatty Arbuckle get the same treatment in 1921?

it's about time this thread had someone show up to argue that every accusation is false and part of a conspiracy, now we can really get down to brass tacks

Is that what you are about to do?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse

oh no :(

ugh. it was 1994 but you don't have to bring back EVERYTHING from the seventies...

damn it.

woah that is some fucked up and gross behaviour

very gross. fuck that.

i couldn't stomach the new R&S but as the article makes clear, he continued to work with so many different people on big projects. now it's like this sickness intertwined into the culture. hopefully that will end.

"Call the police," indeed.

that's a terrible story but this line:"Creators of shows including SpongeBob SquarePants, Adventure Time, and Rick and Morty have cited Ren & Stimpy as an influence" well, yeah, duh. I mean, would they deny that this was influential? I'm not saying 'separate the art from the artist' but it's like saying Woody Allen hasn't been influential. doesn't make him not a fucking creep.

it provides context for the many people who may be unfamiliar with a 25-year-old cult cartoon

And I don't think anyone, the creators or the author, were trying to make him any less of a creep.

his fame has to mentioned as part of explaining why he was able to get away with it in several instances and for so long; he is genuinely beloved by many animators and animation fans for his work.

the many people who may be unfamiliar with a 25-year-old cult cartoon

the new Micky Mouse cartoon is 100% a R&S ripoff. and as mentioned in the article, he recently did animation work for Weird Al and design work for Miley Cyrus. he was still getting work.

Don’t forget the Bjork video!

that one... not so recent

sorry, i was just caught up in naming John K stuff :(

sad sean penn story about his sad book and sad #metoo poem that he included in his book. someone put him on an island somewhere.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sean-penn-bob-honey-who-just-do-stuff-review_us_5ab9a1bee4b008c9e5fa89a2

sorry if already linked to. you probably don't even need to look at it to be honest.

he was still getting work.

The Weird Al video was 12 years ago.

the Bangerz tour wasn't

His output has slowed down, but he enjoys a living-legend stature that prompted 3,562 people to fund a Kickstarter campaign for his short Cans Without Labels, which he screened at a prestigious animation film festival in 2016. He made art for Miley Cyrus’s 2014 Bangerz tour; he animated two credit sequences on The Simpsons, the most recent in 2015. His portrait still hangs on the wall at Nickelodeon.

The article just came out yesterday.

this is a weird thing to argue about

lots of people have made art for pop stars and have 3500 kickstarter supporters; this guy is famous for a cable tv show made a quarter of a century ago. the article, as it should, provided context for why he is more notable than a garden-variety pedo asshole. not everyone who reads buzzfeed is an animation nerd like (apparently) ilxors

i mean, that is also, literally, how you write articles

personally i learned a lot about the concept of time

if he was most productive when being a sexual predator, the slowdown in productivity is probably not so bad. kind of guessing he won't be getting much work anytime soon

All the sentences in the Buzzfeed article about the cartoons he's influenced and the work he gets all seemed pretty value-neutral to me

I guess the word "still" is confusing, but I assumed it meant "still there after making money for them, like, a quarter century ago" vs "still there despite being the open secret that he's a creep"

*despite the

this is a weird thing to argue about

yeah, I'm not quite sure what the argument here is. of course someone whose peak was in the '90s is going to have a slower rate of creative output in the 2010s, that doesn't make the actual story any less horrifying

Sorry, I had misinterpreted the line of conversation to mean that "John K was still getting work despite the open secret that he's a creep" with an accusatory eye towards Weird Al and Miley. To which I responded about the article coming out yesterday as if to say "yeah, but how open of a secret was it? do you really think Miley Cyrus is keeping up with cartoon-industry gossip from 15 years ago?" I realize that I was mistaken and am sorry, but brad's comment made me lol at my desk, so I guess it was worth it.

the way i interpreted that string of messages was someone said "who cares about this guy and some cult show from 25 years ago". and i responded "he was still getting work" hence the Weird Al/Miley, not to accuse them but to say, he's not just some forgotten rando from a quarter century ago with no current impact on pop culture

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/popular-feminism-structural-rage/

Junot Diaz stories out this morning...