XXXTentacion - ?

Well, as I recently rediscovered while trying to listen to “The Warning” on Apple Music, there was a house act on Strictly Rhythm who later had to rebrand as New York Logic:
https://www.discogs.com/artist/15177-Logic

it took me way too long to realize that wasn't anthony fantano

^^^ That's who I thought it was, too.

wait it's not?

deej otm. The next generation will probably emulate xxx, but they probably won't emulate logic. That's why we can't afford to think xxx out of existence. It's also, to a certain extent, why the taste of teenagers tends to matter more than the taste of adult gatekeepers. I'd love to imagine a future where xxx (and logic, of course but that's another matter) is despised & forgotten, but chances are we'll have no such luck. So we'd better find a more productive way to engage with it than "arghhhh, teenagers".

i mean, i do think it matters how we handle shit like this tbc ... but this is the world we've made, where youtube & soundcloud are seen as neutral sites instead of publications

im not actually super into xxx on a personal level, hes extremely corny and an abuser which makes it hard to catch onto the underdog narrative, i just think its undeniable that the work hes making is a real thing in teh world that is persuading people to think a certain way, and that pretending its not is equivalent to holding your hands over your ears...imo criticism is a tool to rob it of its glamor, not a tool to rationalize its 'artiness'

but in order to do that you have to be honest about what its doing that 'works'

It’s weird how he’s the most recent superstar in this era of wokeness though.

not really, teens are not all as woke as the ones in the news

its almost like the entire concept of wokeness is perpetuted by the coastal media elite as a given norm when really Americans would readily elect a racist xenophobe misogynist to be the president

plus also sometimes people with 'woke' politics like 'unwoke' art

right now what's happening in part is the no platforming that (rightly imo) is pushing against i.e. 'free speech' defenses of Bannon giving a speech at U of C, or ppl defending "good writers" who also happen to believe in the bell curve or whatever as Atlantic or Times columnists. this kind of trolling, or pretending at "objectivity" to give cover to i.e. race hate as if it were a thing worth serious debate.

ppl were doing that with xxx in the press but the press was kind of irrelevant and he did an end run around them bc youtube/soundcloud/message boards/social media etc get the word out, transform the debate into an interpersonal one rather than one about platforms bc no one sees spaces like youtube as a publication, but as a neutral site

is how i see it

except in this case the no-platforming accomplishes nothing; the argument for no-platforming is it causes the bad actors in question to give up and take their nazi ball home; clearly, there is no risk of that happening here

right thats what im trying to say!

no problem, misread

people doin good work on this thread I gotta say, enjoying the ~~~discourse~~~

he's on the new weeknd album apparently

perhaps the look-at-me-self-righteousness of xxx and certain types of wokeness might even be connected in some way.

This seems like a crucial read.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/music/the-real-story-of-rapper-xxxtentacion-10410980

Nearly two years after they first met, Ayala now rents a room in a house 20 minutes south of Onfroy's place. It's the first room she's had to herself. "I'm saving up to move somewhere else," she says, "somewhere in the country, where there aren't any people."

a grim and disturbing read.

Some discussion of him on the mumble rap 2017 thread but now that we’re about to see him break into the mainstream he deserves his own thread.

Album got dropped on spotify one week ago and its songs are creeping all the global and viral charts. Billboard is still not acknowledging the streams but it’s safe to say Sad will take the singles charts and the album will take the top 200 in the following weeks.

So, what say you ILM? Worthy of the insane hype?

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:13 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ffs

― imago, Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:16 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck this scumbag abuser forever
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/xxxtentacions-reported-victim-details-grim-pattern-of-abuse-in-testimony/

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:27 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:55 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how did this thread not end right here?

cause soundcloud kids kept listening to him

that's a very sad final paragraph to the piece

"sad" (the song) did not end up taking off on radio as much as i thought it would, i am relieved to say. (obviously it was still a big hit tho + his fans were gonna stream it and the rest of his music constantly regardless of whether radio gave it any further exposure.)

horrifying read

Take, for instance, Hillary Clinton, he says. "She ran [for president] and she wasn't killed for it. That says everything."

yeah fuck him. in this time of endless music availability giving truck to guys like this makes no sense on a 'you can listen to anything else' level although it totally tracks on a 'how does one stand out from the crowd' level

holy shit

http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/18/xxxtentacion-shot-dead-miami/

Live by the sword, die by the sword

oh damn

Live by the sword, die by the sword

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, June 18, 2018 3:42 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one of the worst posts ive ever seen on this board

He's gone from "Dead" to "No pulse" to "Critical condition." By tonight, he'll have just been hit with a bb.

he was just pronounced dead

ilx posts age like milk

He'll be missed. By someone. Probably.

everyone here is so woke they'll dance on a 20 year old's grave

Shakey inspired obit goes here

xp. ah yes, unperson, the most famously woke ilxor

everything about the x story sucks and this is just the awful kicker

friendly reminder you can always say nothing

This is all just horrible. R.i.p.

spent five minutes on twitter and reminded that the apparent need for takes, across the spectrum, is just the worst

ops to simon. i find saying something mildly flippant or shitty about a person who was objectively monstrous who has just died a lot less unpalatable than people RIPing him but ymmv

xps even fuck

i guess we could put them on a spectrum of stupid to stupider, or we could agree they're both stupid

basically

i don't think that saying something shitty about a recently dead dude who stuck a carving fork in his girlfriend's vagina is that bad

or particularly stupid

I don’t think performative glee at the murder of a 20 year old, even an abusive 20 year old, im broad daylight is especially righteous