the kings of techno

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i always thought 'techno 2' was a bit so-so but 'techno 1' rules. 'ride 'em boy'!!!!

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Techno 2 has:

*Area 10-Love Take Me Over
*Reel By Real-AFtermath
KGB-Stark
MK-Mirror, Mirror
*Octave One-I Believe
Infiniti-Techno Por Favor
Psyche-Elements
Vice-Ritual

The ones with stars are in my Techno top 20, hell, the latter two are in my top 5!

Juan es el rey de music techno!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess for me, techno 1 was such a life changing record that 2 couldn't compete. i think i'm about the only techno lover who never fell in love with octave one.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Some of those early 430 West releases are ridiculous. I'd put The Collective up with any of the other anthologies -- the Atkins Metroplex thing on Tresor, Innovator, Places and Phases or Faces and Laces or whatever...

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Octave One was a real eye-opener for me. It sounded like a sexy new wave song to me, and in still a favorite of mine.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

forget "innovator", they need to repress "soundtrack to the tenth planet"

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

NOT ideal for people who know everything

i resent the implication!

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

innovator is soundtrack to the tenth planet

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i resent the implication!

Oh yeah?

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah yeah but upthread people were talking about r&s

hey stir aren't you sort of involved w/ the people from network records?? why are they sitting on all that old good stuff (like biorhythms) and not reissuing it??

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't ride the white horse.

xp

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i dunno, this comp just seems mega prosaic ... "kings of disco" and "kings of digging" were SO good ... but this one seems to be going in the direction of the rest of the series

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah yeah but upthread people were talking about r&s

i was just being obnoxious.


hey stir aren't you sort of involved w/ the people from network records?? why are they sitting on all that old good stuff (like biorhythms) and not reissuing it??

i don't think anyone in detroit has a good word to say about neil rushton these days and i have a feeling all the rights have reverted back.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Kings of House was good, at least it was house on it! This comp is like if Kings of Disco was all funk and soul. Or if Kings of Punk came out and they put the Beatles on it, cos "they had guitars also".

Where is the techno on "THE KINGS OF TECHNO". It's like those rappers who say "yeah my music is ok but Coldplay, that's the real thing!!"

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, I'm not denying the influence of all those acts but most of them are done to that, I mean FFS if the comp was called Laurent Garnier/Carl Craig BACK TO MINE I could understand!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

those "bio rhythm" comps ... so crucial

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah ronan is hitting EXACTLY why i am not happy about this comp

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess my mad pipe dream was that they would turn in something that would sound like their mindblowing dj kicks ... full of crazy obscure mid-90s detroit techno and uk techno

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

1-05 Carl Craig - No More Words (6:52)
1-06 Jeff Mills - Utopia (4:19)
1-07 BFC - Galaxy (6:41)
2-09 Balil - Nort Route (5:16)

allow these songs

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"done to death" I meant...at this point they need to make more techno retrospectives that make outsiders maybe buy it and go "ah this is techno" because it's utterly 100 percent unrelenting techno rather than telling techno fans "there is this band called the stooges, and ah yes have you considered nitzer ebb..." or even worse, telling non techno fans "don't bother with any techno, just listen to the stooges, oh here's acid eiffel a seminal blah blah blah foundations of the genre now you're done, that's techno in a nutshell, they didn't even invent it themselves, go back to watching vh1"

x-post otm dig up some classics CC and Laurent....these comps are ultra crossover, it should be the quintessential Detroit techno mix by two uber-canonical legends, not this modest comp of nods....

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

and where is SILVER APPLES OF THE MOON

where is KONTAKTE

where is DELIA D

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I am interested what the final tracklist will look like. The promo for the Kings of House was similar to this with far fewer tracks, unmixed, and some of them didn't even appear on the final tracklist. I'm sure this will be mixed as well.

matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

history of detroit??? where is the MC5???

"STARSHIP"!!

(didn't sun ra invent techno???)

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

where is EMINEM? where is SEVEN NATION ARMY...

oh shit...

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I understand the gripes and I know it's irritating when something doesn't cater directly to you, but jeezus -- were they supposed to title it Kings of the Roots of Techno as Well as the Developments and Offshoots Thereof?

Was The Kings of Disco supposed to be titled The Kings of Danceable Funk and Soul Made Before, During, and Just a Little Bit After the Bee Gees Went Disco (Along With Some Straight-Up Disco)?

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

if the comp is called 'history of detroit' i can sort of see what they are doing but if it's called 'kings of techno', then iggy should sue.

i believe i asked 'where are the mc5 and sun ra' upthread.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

they should just repress this disc and this disc and put it in a box w/ "kings of techno" stamped on the front

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

stir you are always one step ahead of the crowd

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

"I went to a restaurant called Ashoka Indian Cuisine and they had some Indo-Chinese items on the menu WTF WTF WTF?!!?"

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

the "kings of disco" was topical and timely!! it had macho's "not tonight" and "black skinned blue eyed boys" and "roll the joint" and a bunch of other stuff that's hot right now. and it was a bunch of re-edits, which makes sense too. and it wasn't a redundant selection of stuff that you can find elsewhere.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

1-01 Stooges - No Fun (5:18)
1-02 Aretha Franklin - Rock Steady (3:15)
1-03 Temptations - Plastic Man (5:59)
1-04 Funkadelic - Bettino’s Bounce (3:40)

sorry andy, but this is more like asking for samosas and getting a burrito

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

This is like asking for samosas and a doctor coming and sticking a needle in your arm. Not even the right store!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus with Kings of House, every track is house....

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

like....isn't that what you want? if it's called "kings of techno" then at worst you want to be arguing over some stuff being "house"!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I would like to see this label repressed:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Incognito+Records

this one too:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Retroactive

and y'all forgot about this guy:

http://www.discogs.com/release/65140

And it just occured to me that I really want Just Another Chance by Reece on this comp.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

there's a ton of blake baxter stuff on iTunes ... maybe he'll put that stuff up, oneday??

they DO repress retroactive stuff, don't they? or are those bootlegs? you see the vinyl on the internet once in a while, usually around the same time as when the buzz stuff gets repressed ... bootlegs, right?

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

FRICTIONAL

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Andy K OTM.

My guess is that those Retroactive records are bootlegs because you never see any of those records coming through submerge. I wasn't even aware that those records were getting the bootleg treatment.

Also, this is another one of those old Detroit comps that doesn't get enough love:

http://www.discogs.com/release/44984

I love how Discogs.com is like the new allmusic.com for dance dorks.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

the retroactive ones are bootlegs though retroactive has recently relaunched itself.

agree about incognito - some great records including two of my favourite ever reese releases.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i used to have all of shake's releases but for reason i decided i didn't like anything after "waiting for russell"

"club scam ii", "iconoclastic diaries" and "mood music for the moody" were incredible, though.

(is "russell" arthur russell??)

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, if someone is looking to dig into this shit, they should just get teh fucking Detroit Classics & Techno Diamonds collection. Amirite? The ones upthread look kinda crap.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Back to "May vs. Atkins": I prefer May as a dj but the one time these two did a tag team at Vinyl (RIP) here in NYC it was heaven.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

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There's a simpler solution: MPTrim works entirely in the MP3 data realm so there isn't additional sound degradation from encoding/decoding. Its useful for trimming down silent or excessive intros/outros for tidy CDRs.

That said, you'll need Audacity or the likes to do proper crossfades.

35 Hertz (35 Hertz), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 06:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't Atkins and May have some sort of fallout in the early nineties? Have they buried the hatchet later on?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:08 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

From an email:
NOTE: PROMO YOU HAVE [see tracklist above] IS NOT THE FINISHED CD

FINISHED CD will be a double mix CD featuring

PROMO features a selection of tracks featured on those mixes many of which are out of print and hard to get.

Not from email:

NOT ideal for people who know everything

― Andy_K (Andy_K)

LOL

the late great, Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

i've warmed to this comp quite a bit ... "track selection and mission of a comp called kings of techno?" questions aside, they do a real nice job with the mixing and the track selection is tight

the late great, Saturday, 12 May 2012 05:04 (eleven years ago) link

like i would not consider selling it

the late great, Saturday, 12 May 2012 05:05 (eleven years ago) link

This comp introduced me to D.I.E - "Get Up" which is amazing. I used to spin it regularly (slowed down a bit).

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 12 May 2012 07:06 (eleven years ago) link


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