V For Vendetta: The Movie

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tho to his credit Moore does acknowledge he didn't actually think Gull was the killer in the appendices

Wow. I missed that. This thread makes me want to reread those comics...

― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 18 March 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Henry - I mentioned/discussed this one
Silence of the Lambs - mmm, debatable, the "identity" of Buffalo Bill isn't really firmly established until Clarice stumbles across him.
The Minus Man - didn't see it
American Psycho - ehhhh, okay, might have to give you this one.
Felicia's Journey (arguably), Eye of the Needles (arguably) - didn't see either
Freeway - um, what? do you mean Kiefer? He is not the main character/protagonist.
Natural Born Killers - oh please, this movie is a cartoon, not a "thriller" or a mystery.
I Was a Teenage Serial Killer - didn't see it
Summer of Sam - Sam is not the main character, and anyone seeing this film knows who Berkowitz is.
Bonnie and Clyde - this is not a serial killer movie

and anyway none of these suggest a workable template for From Hell (w/the possible exception of American Psycho)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 March 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Let us discuss the differences between the serial killer genre and movies about serial killers (no, really!)

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 18 March 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Taking Sides: V for Vendetta vs Q the Winged Serpent.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Q the Winged Serpent has six limbs = is an INSECT!

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link

That's why the identity of the killer isn't obvious from the first scene.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Minus Man: wistful, laid-back, slacker serial killer romantic comedy starring Owen Wilson.
I thought Total Recall got the awkwardness of PKD the best out of the lot.

― Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Columbo always started with the reveal of whodunnit, and the intrigue/entertainment was in watching C-man piece together the how and the why.

― Huk-L, Friday, 18 March 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, and the best part of it is that Columbo seems as if he knows the solution all along and he's just piecing it together to torture his opponent. Ace when the bad guy is Cassavettes or a hot blonde.

― Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Alan Moore should write a Columbo GN.

― Huk-L, Friday, 18 March 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Johnny Cash, William Shatner & Patrick McGoohan!

― Huk-L, Friday, 18 March 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, and Monster, which makes a great double feature with Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer.

Dude, just let me have my From Hell movie dream.

― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 21 March 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link

how is silence of the lambs 'debatable'???????? shakey have you seen silence of the lambs?

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 21 March 2005 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Scott Glenn was actually the killer.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 March 2005 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Teaser poster is out

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― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Verily.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Va va voom!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I sat in at the Whitechapel/Westminster shooting last month watching everybody in their Guy Fawkes masks and appreciating how their disguises hid their average looks [ /shallow]. The scene looked pretty good. Didn't spot Portman, though she was around somewhere, I know it!

― Negativa, True Believer (Sheryl Crow in a Britney costume) (Barima), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 08:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it just me, or is "an uncompromising vision of the future, from the creators of the Matrix trilogy" one of the most unappealing taglines ever?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I blame the font.

― Negativa, True Believer (Sheryl Crow in a Britney costume) (Barima), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link

A timely revival - I just spent much of yesterday evening in the pub with V For Vendetta artist David Lloyd, as it happens (and a guy who coloured about half of it, but he's one of my best friends and that was the third day in four that I'd seen him, whereas I hadn't see David in years). Gives me an easy way of doing some quality small-time namedropping without having to contrive a reason, hurrah!

Actually, a unique namedropping encounter, in that David was saying 'hello Martin' to me while I was still not sure if he was who I thought. I've not met a famous person before where that's happened.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Is he getting any royalities?

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

isn't he getting it all? that interview Stewart Lee did with Moore, Moore kept saying that after his first major disillusionment with each further film that got optioned he was going "give the money to the artist, i'm not doing this" - and by the time it got to the 5th or 6th film he was saying it through gritted teeth.

― Britain's Jauntiest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't ask him, what with not remembering that there was a movie on the way.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha, he sounds cool if he doesn't even remember they're filming his work.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I heard reports that Moore signed over all royalty rights to David Lloyd. He also severed his working relationship w/ DC Comics because they used his name in a press release w/out his permission. (Not in a "created by..." context, but in a "Alan approves!" context.)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

the font on the bottom tagline is Futura, appropriately enough.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

No, I mean I had forgotten there was a film, and no one else brought it up, perhaps oddly. We did talk about films some, and with his attitude to modern action-adventure and special fx films, I suspect VfV will hardly be his kind of thing.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Saw the trailer the other day. Had a white-hot feeling of rage rush up my spine and into my scalp. Not because it looks that bad, just on Moore's behalf.

I haven't heard any more advance press about it. Are they still going with the Nazi angle? Is he still not going to blow up any buildings?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought the nazi thing was just press misunderstanding

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 29 July 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Im getting that vibe, too. One IMDB entry says that it's about the Germans winning WWII, but another, the one that appears on the main page now, simply says "fascist government." It seems almost like a correction, but the original abstract hasn't been removed, only moved to a secondary page.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

The trailer doesn't look bad. Bullet time seems to be a sticking point with most, but I didn't mind it. Way too much red however. I don't recall any fully saturated colors in the GN. The movie should be filmed in hangover-vision.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 29 July 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

The visual style of the comic book was part of its theme, yes. Fincher's black-and-blue palettes would have suited better.

And no, it doesn't look bad. Shame about casting Natalie Portman, but it has Stephen Rea, too, and it's always good to see him. And Hugo Weaving will be perfect if they can resist an unmasking scene.

The repeated use of the word "uncompromising" in the ad campaign is perhaps a good sign. Did they actually stick very close to the source material? They want us to believe so, at any rate.

Surely there's a good (if un-PC, heady, and uncomfortable) movie in the material, no doubt. And the original GN has always been my least favorite of Moore's works -- it's him finding footing, and it's messy.

I have hope.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I should say, my least favorite of Moore's major Graphic Novels. I remember spotty Swamp Thing issues. I'm not counting those.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

say, what was the reasoning for miracle-/marvelman going fucking bugged out for a run, anyway?

― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 29 July 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

not sure I fully understand the question, but to my memory Marvelman was originally running in Warrior magazine (along w/V for Vendetta), but the magazine folded before either series was completed. Marvelman had trouble getting re-started because of Marvel Comics/copyright infringement balonium.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 29 July 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, remember this: The Wachowski Bros are still alleged by Grant Morrison and his fans to have "adapted" The Invisibles to make The Matrix. And The Matrix kicks ass. Maybe adapting comics is in their blood?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I am a huge fan of the V series. For a sneak preview of the movie, call (713)553-1256

― V for Vendetta fan, Friday, 29 July 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Houston, eh? Out of my area.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I still think that repeating "Remember remember the fifth of November" in the trailer is going to sound like a release date to Americans.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

well they're releasing it on the 5th of November...

― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 30 July 2005 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

nope the FOURTH!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 30 July 2005 03:56 (eighteen years ago) link

The Trailer looks very close to the book; most of the scenes in the trailer are incidents in the book, and if the Nazi victory in WW2 is a way to explain the presence of a fascist govt. in UK then it'll be OK. I think it us, as it's much easier to move on from than Moore's original scenario.

Taken all together, I am now very excited by this.

― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 31 July 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Alan gave some details about bits of the V For Vendetta shooting script he'd seen. "It was imbecilic; it had plot holes you couldn't have got away with in Whizzer And Chips in the nineteen sixties. Plot holes no one had noticed."
What Moore found most laughable however were the details. "They don't know what British people have for breakfast, they couldn't be bothered. 'Eggy in a basket' apparently. Now the US have 'eggs in a basket,' whish is fried bread with a fried egg in a hole in the middle. I guess they thought we must eat that as well, and thought 'eggy in a basket' was a quaint and Olde Worlde version. And they decided that the British postal service is called Fedco. They'll have thought something like, 'well, what's a British version of FedEx... how about FedCo? A friend of mine had to point out to them that the Fed, in FedEx comes from 'Federal Express.' America is a federal republic, Britain is not."

David Lloyd was reported to have commented on the script at the recent Bristol comics convention. Superherohype posted a fan report talking to Lloyd, saying "he thinks it was very good for an Action Thriller, but is very much different from the Graphic Novel. He said that the character of Evey is less of a victim in this film and that he had met with The Wachoski Brothers."

― LOCKER ROOM TOWEL FIGHT: THE BLINDING OF LARRY DRISCOLL (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

What's that from? Link plz.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Nevermind. Got it.

http://www.alanmoorefansite.com/news/may2005.html

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I like how the trailer to this gives the impression of a fantastic movie drowning in a gigantic bucket of "Uh, WHAT???" sauce.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

People anticipating this film need to witness the most elegantly crafted soliloquy in cinematic history:

V: "This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vangquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition.

"The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."

Evey: "Are you like, a crazy-person?"

― Leeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 1 August 2005 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Much vim and vigor here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 August 2005 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Verily.

― Leeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 1 August 2005 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link

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