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Goth is the new hippie. The look and the lifestyle go on long, long after the social conditions which formed them have disappeared. Hence, it is silly retro-nostalgia and escapism, in both camps.

kate, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sarah, yeah I like Faithless. Maybe they are goths but their music (5 good songs as I say) is not. I like Will Oldham alot too but I'm not going to go off and live in the hills on my own and grow a neck beard. Yet.

Ronan, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Robt. Smith in lippy = sign that genderfucking has ceased to be an absolute good.

Odd sentence structure here, let me help it along here:

"Robert Smith in lipstick = a sign of goodness and truth, and the knowledge that the world is a fine and good place, where bunnies play happily."

Much improved.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Thank you Arthur, I felt I had to stick up for the Goths as most of what's being said here in my experience simply isn't true.

DG, Saturday, 24 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tina Yothers is goth now. And cute!

bnw, Sunday, 25 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Get out! No effing way!

Kim, Sunday, 25 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No, she's got this semi-goth band and plays around the area. If it makes her happy, I guess.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I actually had to see/hear for myself so I did the Google thing. She can sing well enough, but the songs - they're just not any good. Poor Jennifer.

Kim, Sunday, 25 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I know somebody who actually was compelled to go see Tina's band live. His critique was something along the lines of "worse than 4 non blondes"...

Nicole, Sunday, 25 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Toronto area goth scene bar Skanktuary or Sanctuary or something like that had a great article in the Toronto Star about the owner/operator who was also a officer in the reserves. Great, just great, I wanna nihlist officer leading my army.
"The girl dies, you die, everybody dies."

Mr Noodles, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've been there. It was a dank basement with coffins and mouldy couches and you used to have to crawl over broken lumber to get to the sodden pit that served as a rest room. I wasn't too shocked when it got closed down for like, the sixth time.

Kim, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

But was the ElMo shut down??? The things that happen in that city when I turn my back for a second I tell ya.

Mr Noodles, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

In the Velvet Underground they have some really nice gothy metal gargoyle scuptures above the bar and around the poles and stuff. The best part about that place though is how there is that big skylight over the dark dancefloor so the moonlight actually gets all silvery in there. At least that's how I'm remembering it - I was pretty drunk.

Kim, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah they had some big closing do not too long ago. I think.

Kim, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two years pass...
there is a new generation of young white middle class girls who are rebellious.They hide themseleves in this whole goth style.Have you noticed alot of them use that patchouli stuff instead of bathing.Most of them smell so bad and look so un-washed and greasy.And these same girls date interracialy...prefering to have black boyfriends to anger there parents.

sammyJohn, Thursday, 19 February 2004 06:48 (twenty years ago) link

goddamn lucky s.o.b.'s

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 19 February 2004 07:54 (twenty years ago) link

Um, dissing girls who "date interracialy" is not the best way to make your ILX debut, Mr. SammyJohn.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 February 2004 09:21 (twenty years ago) link

the goth kids/raisins episode of south park was on last night, CLASSIX0R!!!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 19 February 2004 11:15 (twenty years ago) link

Why on earth did I want to see Cannibal Holocaust?

I still haven't, by the way. And I can't see why I'd want to!

Sarah (starry), Thursday, 19 February 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

The Electric Ballroom, Camden on a Friday night. Got any Alien Sex Fiend, mate?

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago) link

MARRY ME PLEASE!!!

http://elvira.com/gfx/throne.gif

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago) link

Sub-sub culture: goth girls who aren't rotund

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

This new generation of suburban goths referred to above? OBVIOUSLY THE BEST THING EVER!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago) link

News of this development took a mere 20 years to reach ILE...

Enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

haha

kephm, Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, where were they supposed to come from before? The Bronx?

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

"there is a new generation of young white middle class girls who are rebellious"

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

There was a Reading Festival a few years back when the Sisters of Mercy played on a Sunday afternoon. Turned into a boiling hot day. The effects of thick make up melting down faces was like the aftermath of Agent Orange.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

Gothick 4 Life, Bitch

Someone had to link to this, might as well be me.

webcrack (music=crack), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

3 years?

Are all the goths dead now then?

mei, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

no, they're all just male sluts

remy bean, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

They're too busy being C-C-CLASSIQUE.

Abbott, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

My band is playing soon at a club called G0th City. I will post a report.

moley, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Plainly labeled!

Abbott, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I've grown out of the male slut phase

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 04:46 (sixteen years ago) link

You grew into one to start with? :P

Trayce, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link

And gosh, a goth thread where my name isn't invoked even once. How interesting. </sarcasm>

Trayce, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

hey just today i was wondering why i had never heard of 'goth' on 'chav' attacks, i couldn't think of any reason why they wouldn't happen at least occasionally. uh, but i'm not sure i needed a murder to take place for my mind-settling benefit.

(the comments... deary me)

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 2 August 2008 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

My band is playing soon at a club called G0th City. I will post a report.

-- moley

I never did report on that gig, did I? It was poorly attended and afterwards a punter went on to a messageboard called Sydney G0th or something and complained we weren't goth enough. The end.

moley, Saturday, 2 August 2008 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

in your opinion, were you goth enough?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Saturday, 2 August 2008 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link

In truth, no. We're more of a cougar band. Our core audience is made up of heavily tattoed single mothers and young male runaways from broken homes experimenting with the heterosexual lifestyle.

moley, Saturday, 2 August 2008 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Bauhaus Tribute night in Seattle tomorrow night. I'll be there.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 2 August 2008 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Bela Lugosi's Not Dead

moley, Saturday, 2 August 2008 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah we're gonna bring the coffin out and Bela Lugosi is gonna get up out of his coffin and breakdance, man. It's gonna be great.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 2 August 2008 03:44 (fifteen years ago) link

:)

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 2 August 2008 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

well..
It's about time we stood up against those cocksucking twatbags, i thank the goth for what he/she did.
So we took the murder of a goth by the hands of chavs but we don't take a death of a chav by the hands of goths?
About fucking time the chavs got cut down i say, about fucking time!

Posted by dragonforce | August 1, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply to this

Wow... we are finally taking a stand against the chavs! I can't say it was a very good way of doing it though, beating up a guy who did nothing to them first.
Posted by Jessy | August 1, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply to this
this chav pussies, should be all incarcerated. peace out

Posted by rui palmeira | August 1, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply to this

This planet is so doomed
*Screaming till my heart stops*
WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE WORLD?!?!?!
People who are different can't win!
The Chav was looking for trouble, he probably started on him, although he most likely deserved it.
How many murders have their been on emos & goths becuase of chavs and yobbos . I mean, me and my emo friends were walking though a shopping center (mainly full of emo/skate shops anyway) and these chavs started shouting emo and loads of really out of order stuff, but oh no we cant even say a word to them without getting arrested or something!!!!!!!!
*still screaming in my head*
>:(

Posted by Christy | August 1, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply to this

Well done I say. We need more like these two to clean up the scum from the streets. They took a potential killer off our streets. My hat comes off to these men.

Posted by CoB HC | August 2, 2008 12:58 AM | Reply to this

Right i dont wish to take sides especially because i knew neither of these people personally HOWEVER every day the chav culture affects our society in a negative way, theres an increase in gun crime and knife crime surprise surprise its the dickheads wearing tracksuits that do it, they form street gangs to make shitty music about each other in there bedrooms and wait for a reply so they can use it as a reason to engage in violence, they vandalise my neighborhood and smash all the cars in the street up, they spend there lives smoking weed and trying to impress people with their machetes and guns and illegal dogs, they have no aspirations and no will to benefit this country in any way shape or form and they dont care about anybody but themselves probably due to emotional distress which has lowered their confidence and left them with an easily influenced pathetic mind pattern. on top of this they frown upon anybody who reads kerrang magazine or listens to any music promoted by kerrang because it promotes the use of musical instruments that they dissaprove of because theyve been easily influenced into believing they'll get more respect from other chavs by listening to shitty homemade bedroom MC's. now i'll give my opinion on the most likely happening of the night, the chav started shouting abuse at the goth for wearing different clothes and not wearing a cotton nike air max tracksuit the chav then swore at the goth and because the goth is sick of the little unemployed drug taking dick head chavs ruining the country he lost his temper and kicked the chav to death, personally i'd love nothing more than to see this happen to every single chav in the country and i hope it hurt.

Posted by Z | August 2, 2008 3:06 AM | Reply to this

I dont really care about chavs they think they own when they dont a stuck up for a goth in town man and the fucking chav came over and started yellin he was gonna knife me then called me a goth for wearing black skinny jeans and converse a mean people these days should be able to wear what the fuck they want without be slagged or fucking abused in the streets chavs always start there shit tho when they have been drinkin wine thinkin they're king kong screw chavs there all pricks this is the first time ave ever hear of a goth beating a chav its always the other way around
fur sure (Y)

Posted by Nikki | August 2, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply to this

DJ Mencap, Saturday, 2 August 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Scary comments

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 2 August 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link

you british and your mods and your rockers.

burt_stanton, Saturday, 2 August 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck yeah. We are rocking now. I just got a goth record in the mail from Europe and I am going to post it to my blog.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 2 August 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link


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