US Politics, March 2018: Why do people leave the White House for good?

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BREAKING: Rep. Ryan Costello, R-Pa., will withdraw from his congressional race, he tells me. More soon @KasieDC

— Kasie Hunt (@kasie) March 25, 2018

Another House seat that the current tenant, at least, believes is not secure.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 26 March 2018 00:54 (six years ago) link

yea there's nothing in that 60 Minutes interview that we didn't already know but it still seems significant to have someone come out and say all this. especially the whole "he has goons that directly threaten people" bit. it kind of sheds light on what might have happened to all those accusers that came out after the Access Hollywood tape and why we didn't hear a whole lot out of them.

interesting bit to me is why Trump's people threatened her in 2011, he wasn't running back then and last I remembered he kinda openly bragged about cheating on his wife in the past. it's not like she was saying anything horribly embarrassing. either Melania's got a good prenup or there's something more to the story. also, Stormy's insistence that it was her fault for going up there in the first place and that she was obligated to have sex with him kinda says a lot

frogbs, Monday, 26 March 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link

Trump has always been a coward who hid behind shtarkers.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 March 2018 02:34 (six years ago) link

the "dotard" incident was the same, bring able to say "-tard" and get away with it

I disagree. First "dotard" is pre-Shakesperean and far predates the 20th century euphemism for moron: retard, or any of its much later variant neologisms. Also, it is pronounced very differently, as DAW-terd, so that the -tard is entirely unemphasized. The delight was probably more connected to its status as an arcane anachronism.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 26 March 2018 04:56 (six years ago) link

trump dumb tho

j., Monday, 26 March 2018 05:13 (six years ago) link

I will bet money that 99% of the people using dotard hear it in their heads as “dough-tard.”

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 26 March 2018 06:41 (six years ago) link

Particularly since that's the way it's pronounced, as with dotage and, well, dote.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 26 March 2018 07:46 (six years ago) link

The delight was probably more connected to its status as an arcane anachronism.

well, also that trump was getting owned by the leader of north korea, not previously known as for his way with a cutting bon mot

we gather in social groups and disorient ourselves (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 March 2018 08:31 (six years ago) link

aimless I have heard tons of people use it and not one has pronounced it like that, dough-tard is how heard it and these weren't ppl delighting in Ren faire olden tyme slang of yore, they were using it exactly how you'd say the other word

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 March 2018 11:22 (six years ago) link

I honestly didn't even know about that pronunciation until you just posted it

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 March 2018 11:29 (six years ago) link

The question is, is he smart enough to delete and rephrase this tweet? My money's on No.

The economy is looking really good. It has been many years that we have seen these kind of numbers. The underlying strength of companies has perhaps never been better.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 26, 2018

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 26 March 2018 11:37 (six years ago) link

sounding a little fatigued this morning

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 26 March 2018 11:46 (six years ago) link

never heard "dotard" w/ accent on "tard" except in what I thought was jest. It's pronounced DOUGH-terd!

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 26 March 2018 11:49 (six years ago) link

I believe you I just had not heard people use it that way

what country do you think this is?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 March 2018 11:52 (six years ago) link

btw this is all incredibly pedantic point missing of the intent and meaning of my post, but I'm glad your governesses taught you well

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 March 2018 11:53 (six years ago) link

I do love the idea that Kim is using what must be his grandfather's translation book

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 26 March 2018 11:58 (six years ago) link

I'm fine with emphasis on either half of dough-tard - it's "DAW-terd" that threw me.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 26 March 2018 12:09 (six years ago) link

You say dotard the way you say drunkard, another word that shares some letters with retard

scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 March 2018 12:14 (six years ago) link

omfg read the post

no one is arguing about which way the correct way to pronounce it

I was talking about a gleeful meanness on the part THE LEFT AND NEOLIBERAL SCUM S/O SIMON wrt to making fun of infrailty and people's physical appearances

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 March 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link

Actually several ppl were arguing about which way to pronounce it

scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 March 2018 12:19 (six years ago) link

cya

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 March 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link

US Politics, March 2018: What Are We Arguing About?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2018 12:43 (six years ago) link

the "shame if something were to happen to your mom" comment isn't the first one of its kind that's been alleged from a Trump-affiliated thug? I might be imagining this but I swear I read at least one other story with something comparable

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 26 March 2018 12:44 (six years ago) link

yeah I've heard stories like that about him several times, but I don't think it's ever been "on the record" like it was here

gotta say I do appreciate how Stormy just gave straight yes or no answers to nearly everything. kind of refreshing in this era.

frogbs, Monday, 26 March 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link

Someone's all tough now

BREAKING: U.S. set to expel 60 Russian diplomats (Intel agents with diplomatic cover) and close Russia's consulate in Seattle. The 60 being expelled are persona non grata and have 7 days to leave the country.

— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) March 26, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 March 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link

the "shame if something were to happen to your mom" comment isn't the first one of its kind that's been alleged from a Trump-affiliated thug? I might be imagining this but I swear I read at least one other story with something comparable

Trump said this to Jeb in a debate iirc

President Keyes, Monday, 26 March 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link

Trump was right: Barbara Bush would've been a tougher president than Jeb!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2018 13:32 (six years ago) link

when trump's otm, he's v otm

we gather in social groups and disorient ourselves (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 March 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link

Apparently this strike has just ended; TIL the Pinkertons are still around

It's day 20 of another strike in West Virginia. A scab pulled a gun on strikers, and the company in question has hired the Pinkertons. Yes, this is 2018. https://t.co/vPquQhhYfc

— Sarah Jones (@onesarahjones) March 23, 2018

Simon H., Monday, 26 March 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link

Cruel to hire a Weezer tribute band to taunt the strikers

President Keyes, Monday, 26 March 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link

wow labour relations have really advanced over the last couple of hundred years huh

The Pinkerton promise is attractive to some Silicon Valley firms. The Guardian reported on March 16 that Google and Facebook have both retained Pinkerton to monitor staff for leaks. “Among other services, Pinkerton offers to send investigators to coffee shops or restaurants near a company’s campus to eavesdrop on employees’ conversations,” Olivia Solon reported.

we gather in social groups and disorient ourselves (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 March 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link

they do it out of love

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 March 2018 13:51 (six years ago) link

you know, they care

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 March 2018 13:51 (six years ago) link

shoring up the patriarchy imo

― gbx, Monday, March 26, 2018 12:13 AM (thirteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think gbx has the actual core ish there

― Hunt3r, Monday, March 26, 2018 12:22 AM (thirteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Closer, but the traditional order might be closer still - the 'patriarchy' still has a 'racial' (and religious) dimension in many places. A better word than traditionalism may be fascism.

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 26 March 2018 14:03 (six years ago) link

Another useful Mariotti thread

1/ Last night’s @nytimes article by @maggieNYT and @nytmike deserves more attention. As they note, the only *personal* attorney Trump has working on the Mueller investigation. That’s really important, for two reasons.

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) March 26, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 March 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

Mariotti's basically repeating what Abramson said yesterday, except Abramson, if I read him correctly, characteristically made the additional implication en passant that Cobb, who represents "the White House" and not Trump, has essentially been telling Trump to cooperate and not fire Mueller in service to the interests of the Presidency qua office rather than occupant

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 26 March 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link

Not a huge surprise, but the Pinkertons logo is terrifying

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/12/Pinkerton_logo.svg/436px-Pinkerton_logo.svg.png

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link

Those fuckers still exist??!!?

valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link

well I guess I found what I was thinking of

Last year, my @BuzzFeedNews colleagues and I documented three separate instances of people reporting to the police and FBI that they were physically threatened by people close to Trump. The incidents date back to the 1980s. https://t.co/E51BxB3GoVhttps://t.co/cVZu50nzZ7 pic.twitter.com/mDDtnO1mX3

— Jason Leopold (@JasonLeopold) March 26, 2018

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

PINKERTON®: we'll stab you in the eye, motherfucker

we gather in social groups and disorient ourselves (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

hell yeah, a contextless link to a two-and-a-half-year-old story, that's my kinda #content

we gather in social groups and disorient ourselves (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link

Pinkerton logo = CBS + Un Chien Andalou

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link

silby, check out the Sarah Jones article I posted earlier this morning

Simon H., Monday, 26 March 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link

sounding a little fatigued this morning

― motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Monday, March 26, 2018 1:46 PM (three hours ago)

Agreed

I wonder how he would react if the earth is ripped out from under his feet. Like if he gets dragged through the mud during an impeachment trial, gets impeached, divorced, defeated in a bunch of lawsuits, publicly humiliated to the extreme, and left for dead by former friends and allies.

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

wow @ that contextless article

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link

exactly which article are we talking about here; the context for mine is that Stormy Daniels reported a similar threat made to her daughter

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link

Moo Vaughn's Rolling Stones story

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link

Separately, a little flashback to fifteen years ago. But if Bolton's back in the news, why not this guy too.

https://taskandpurpose.com/paul-bremer-iraq-war-ski-instructor/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 March 2018 16:01 (six years ago) link

Bremer, meanwhile, mostly kept his head down. Like the former commander-in-chief, he took up painting. (Though his wistful oils lack the musicality of W.’s best works, pieces like “Sunset with Man’s Best Friend” do carry a distinct emotional power.)

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link


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