killer mike raps el-p produces "R.A.P. Music"

oh no, im not directing that at you, thats to RL's thread/simon

uh me neither?

https://pitchfork.com/news/killer-mike-apologizes-for-nra-interview-in-new-video-watch/

There's a lot here that makes sense, even if the timeline doesn't quite clear up his "march right out of the house" remark, but I still question the very idea of appearing on "NRA-TV" (which I didn't even know existed until today).

xp sorryyyyyyyyyyy just to rl's thread

*vindicated for hating run the jewels all along*

getting sassed again:

Killer Mike gotta take a year off of being woke. pic.twitter.com/mJrXfrKRKJ

— Vince Valholla (@VinceValholla) April 8, 2018

killer mike is a fucking ninny

wanna rethink that one, k3vin?

ok had to google "ninny racist" and yeah, apologies, mods please change to "jackass"

*googles quickly*

oh good, reckon we can get about a hundred posts on whether nincompoop is a derivation of pickaninny or not

oof getting sonned by joy ann reid must be truly mortifying

He went after her?

He did indeed...badly.

...apart from the instagram comment Alfred posted?

And that is what I meant.

and I was answering Simon with an eyebrow raised

I see no Joy-Ann Reid fans on ILX, just shaking heads at how ridiculous Mike's been

KM makes up with JAR (he's going on her show), backs off from the NRA, and endorses the Socialist Rifle Association, which I just learned exists

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhl0jEXjjZq/?hl=en&taken-by=killermike

well their reddit is certainly excited about it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialistRA/

Mentioned this on Twitter yesterday but how do these dudes get a free pass for "fuckboy"? Pretty clearly a homophobic term, they use it all the time, still get glittering press in Pitchfork etc. I know it's an issue in rap in general but seems especially glaring for RTJ who seem to have little to no audience outside the indie market.

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fuck·boy
/ˈfəkˌboi/
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nounVULGAR SLANG•DEROGATORY
a weak or contemptible man.
a man who has many casual sexual partners.
Definitions from Oxford Languages

is kinda funny that ILX went from tut-tutting the usage of the word cos of their collective incorrect understanding of what it meant to using it, if not often, at least 'regularly', if I use ILX search to confirm (which I just did)

where is the outrage over "punk" which is far less ambiguous? or all the dick sucking stuff. which I'd have hoped these dudes would have grown out of

tbf I do recall at least el-p using the bad f word in the past but (no excuse) that was rampant back then. I still wish he would stick to making beats. which I feel used to be a more common opinion than it is now

I first heard fuckboy in reference to people like bieber & if anything it was about overbearing heterosexuality as well as general dickheadery. it could have a homophobic resonance on occasion but there's far more blatant stuff surely

lol i had no idea 'punk' originally was a homophobic term

searching around and it seems like 'fuckboy' did sometimes have homophobic connotations in the past but that usage had largely disappeared or been overshadowed as it got popularised as a slang term last decade

In prison slang "fuckboy" and "punk" mean basically the same thing

"punk" is ancient homo argot

About 20 years ago a couple of dumb redneck guys were often at the lake house down the road from my inlaws and they would set off fireworks late at night and constantly yell "FUCK" all the time so my wife and her family all started calling anyone who was loud out in the woods 'the fuck boys'.

I was super confused when I heard the first RTJ record and didn't know how they picked up slang that my 50-something midwestern mother-in-law invented.

you can go back just a couple of years earlier in the killer mike discography and find some much-less-veiled homophobic terms. "fuckboy" is a step up.

I've got some bad news about ATCQ

i was enjoying BORN LIKE THIS the other day until "batty boyz" came on, this shit is everywhere

yeah that blatant homophobia is hard to ignore, especially in dancehall

i say dancehall cause that's where doom got the batty boyz slang from

yeah it was basically the f-word equivalent at my school

oops Killer Mike's got Chappelle on his new track

DBNS

That was really disappointing to see. Feels like a misreading of a large part of the audience he's gained since Run the Jewels blew up, but then again I see a lot of uncritical praise for the songs on Twitter so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not sure how big the Anti-Chappelle Rap fan contingent is

The Chappelle intro is easy to skip at least. It's gross but not really surprising - KM hasn't taken issue at all with TI's creepiness about his daughter or any of that, BFFs with Bill Maher, etc..

not to mention appearing on NRA TV

I can understand that appearance, as he believes in Black gun ownership as a means of self-defense given the lack of support from police, which makes total sense to me in the current climate. He was a bit naive to think the NRA wouldn't pervert why he was actually appearing, for their own reasons, which is why he apologized afer.

*after