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Man, "Trash" is such a classic

niels, Saturday, 24 March 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link

Very good Ed Buller piece which i'm sure has been posted on Suede threads. Some fascinating stuff in here

https://www.repeatfanzine.co.uk/interviews/ed%20buller.htm

“Trash is the only thing in the entire history of working with Brett, I think (pausing) I don’t know, you’d have to ask him. But I would say that Trash is the only thing that he’s still cross with me about. Everything else, if it didn’t turn out right, he forgave me, because enough turned out well that he was really happy with. If you listen to Trash on the 2003 Singles compilation, he actually re-recorded the vocals!”

piscesx, Saturday, 24 March 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link

Sometimes the debut is the only music I can listen to these days

imago, Saturday, 24 March 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

Or rather, the only music that I'm compelled to hear. It happens every few months

imago, Saturday, 24 March 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link

great stuff in that Buller interview indeed

Whereas on Daddy’s Speeding, he just got this weird thing in his head where he wanted the word speeding to sound like schhhpeeding (laughing), so it sounded like a car. He kept saying, “Does it sound like a car Ed?” And I was like (laughing), “Yes, it sounds like a car Brett – a big silver car going very, very fast!”

niels, Saturday, 24 March 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link

the questions are hilarious though

10.Do you have a favourite opening and closing album track + a favourite song intro, middle-section and outro?

niels, Saturday, 24 March 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link

Great interview.

When we started to do vocals, one of the agreements was that we wouldn’t use so many reverbs, we’d just use little delays. That obviously just started to go out of the window, because Brett can’t stand his voice being dry – he can’t stand it! He has to have lots of effects.

This explains a lot.

2018 has to be better (snoball), Saturday, 24 March 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

New album, The Blue Hour, out September 21! Produced by Alan Moulder. Had no idea they were in the studio again but very pleased to hear they are.

http://thequietus.com/articles/24495-suede-blue-hour-album

early rejecter, Monday, 30 April 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

Anderson was hinting at greater ambition. We'll see. Exciting though!

imago, Monday, 30 April 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

Holy shit! Excellent news... their last two albums were fucking awesome.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 30 April 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

Hmm, I love Moulder but dunno if he's a good fit for the group. I guess it depends on what they are going for.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 April 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

Could be a pretentious mess but they seems to have had a hold on things since the reunion, so I'm up for this this

PaulTMA, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link

I'm hoping for a pretentious mess tbh

imago, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link

They've been talking up making one since the last one. I'm just hoping it isn't too comically 'out there', in a Suede way.

Really enjoyed Night Thoughts, but it's going to take a lot to forget the awful Eastenders-dressed-up-as-Derek-Jarman movie that accompanied it for the two live album performances I saw

PaulTMA, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link

spoken word :/

kinder, Monday, 30 April 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

xps No-one manages to pulls off pretentious mess like Suede.

2018 has to be better (snoball), Monday, 30 April 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

yeah that film, jesus.

piscesx, Monday, 30 April 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

Also no-one manages to unnecessarily pluralise a word like me...

2018 has to be better (snoball), Monday, 30 April 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

I will listen to this, but their two recent albums have absolutely fitted into the genre of bombastic indie rock, and nothing more, a big turn-off for me. I've seen them play live for both (including that film), and when they play older songs it is as exciting as in the old days. I keep hoping that through playing them, they will manage to recapture some of that. Or something weirder! That preview video sounds pretty good, but on the album that's probably just gonna be a transition between two solid indie tunes.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

Dismissing anything by Suede as bombastic ... I mean, is there literally anything by this (awesome) band that can be described as subtle?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link

The Living Dead / My Dark Star Sleeping Pills / By the Sea etc

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 00:45 (five years ago) link

Anyway, the adjective goes with the noun, and I don't think they recorded anything that could be described as bombastic indie rock prior to their reforming.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 00:47 (five years ago) link

The parts of Dog Man Star that I guess might be called bombastic (not by me) are certainly not indie rock.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link

idk the recent albums sounds like Suede to me, albeit a touch more streamlined than their peak-era stuff. I listen to quite a bit of indie rock and can't think of any recent bands that sound much like 'em in any era. (and "The Living Dead" might be quiet but it's anything but subtle)

Simon H., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link

I Don't Know How To Reach You might be bombastic but it's as good as indie gets

imago, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

What do we reckon? Very much takes off where Night Thoughts left off, which is no bad thing. Clearly not a 'single' in the traditional sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqzvcj0-kF4

PaulTMA, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link

I thought that was Rose McGowen for a few seconds. Anyway, it's good but yeah, very "album track."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

Not too surprised they've picked a slow burner, non-single single to kick off with, considering how they are talking up this new album.

PaulTMA, Monday, 4 June 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

Predictably, I love it. I've really been enjoying what Suede have been getting up to since they reformed.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

it's a beaut. If only they'd play over here!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

"Don't Be Afraid If Nobody Loves You" is pretty nice!

Simon H., Friday, 13 July 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

I can’t stop playing it for a week now. Title/chorus sounds like by the numbers BA, but he’s doing something quite Kate Bush-y in the verses. Hoping for a pretentious mess x3

nikola, Saturday, 21 July 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link

You know, the thing I don't like about modern Suede is Richard Oakes' guitar. This song would be really good if not for his crappy tone and robotic playing.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 27 July 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link

It does feel like an inferior re-do of I Don't Know How To Reach You, which is already one of their crowning achievement

imago, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

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imago, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

I like Oakes' guitar just fine and he's come up with some great things over the years.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

Not to mention he can play Butler's guitar parts on the old stuff live better than Butler ever could.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

This recent phase of Suede's career (Bloodsports to date) might just be my favourite phase of their career to date. They've been on great form.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

*date=present

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Sold on this after one listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEJfWrfN15k

PaulTMA, Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

good song, bit of Rocknroll Suicide

video doesn't help it, neither does the production imo (still waiting for that undercompressed live album with highlights from Bloodsports and Night Thoughts)

niels, Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

I guess it's good but I'm never gonna get into this version of Suede. I prefer e.g. Can't Get Enough or Savoir Faire to any Suede song post 2000. And I don't even like those songs that much. No point in me hoping for another Metal Mickey or New Generation or Flashboy – it's no shame of theirs they can't provide it, more mine for wanting it.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

I like that you can see Oaksy playing an axe solo on top of one of the tower blocks.

djh, Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/ICCmPv7.png

incarcerated moonfaces (how's life), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

Oh that song is very good - like making a whole song out of a "Wild Ones" verse.

Also, the video is kind of perfect for Suede, inhabiting the same empty and depopulated world of emotional desolation as the 'Sci-Fi Lullabies' cover. It would have been perfect if they had left out any Cyrillic letters to make the location less obvious.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

I'm quite surprised at how great the whole package is, speaking as someone who liked the album but truly hated the Night Thoughts film

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

So, the new album. Both long songs are really good (yeah yeah vmic) but I'm not sold on the rest yet - feels like a step down from Night Thoughts

imago, Friday, 21 September 2018 09:11 (five years ago) link

I found Night Thoughts ok (but never went back to it).
This one, I couldn't bother to listen to more than a few seconds of each new track.
I guess I simply don't like THIS band (as it is now).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 21 September 2018 09:35 (five years ago) link

Love Night Thoughts, can't remember Bloodsports (but liked it iirc), thanks for the bump on the new one! Us Yanks need to pay attention!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 September 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link

they went full vintage-Scott-Walker for this one huh

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link


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