Primal Scream.

I saw a burnt out wheelie-bin earlier, pure anarchy.

"Is that some cunt oan ILX rippin' the pish oot o' me again?"

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01145/arts-graphics-2003_1145250a.jpg

obsessive favourite band in screamadelica era - saw them live 1992 while pumped full of substances and it is one of the handful of live shows in a lifetime of gig-going that actually fulfilled the transcendent promise/potential of the concert experience (drugs + fandom + dancing + band self-awarely in their "imperial phase" is a great combo)

tried to keep the fire alive during "give out..." era in face of diminishing returns, got pretty hard into vanishing point and xtrmtr, then out

their massive record collection schtick feels corny/tired in retrospect but grateful to them for pointing pre-internet young suburbanite me onto various cool things - coltrane/mc5/can/dennis wilson whatever

happened to listen to dirty hits last week, first spin in a decade-plus - the screamadelica stuff feels really lame now IMO, vanishing point and xtrmtr stuff holds up better than i would have guessed, some of those later tracks (miss lucifer kind of era) were fun to hear again

Kill all hippies will always be a jam

their massive record collection schtick feels corny/tired in retrospect but grateful to them for pointing pre-internet young suburbanite me onto various cool things

yep... screamadelica sent me to both dance music and the rolling stones.

Listening to XTRMNTR now and I remembered I have 2 12”s from this album. Two Lone Swordsman mixes of Swastika Eyes that I love and a 12” with If They Move Kill Them. Kill All Hippies sounded great right now.

Was really digging Pills until this ending. Oh dear. Poor Bobby.

i saw Primal Scream about two years ago here in Los Angeles, it was a great show. seen them now around ten times, always a good time even the Give Out but Don't Give Up tour was amazing. no joke, they were touring with Depeche Mode for that album and then they did a Hell's Angel concert at the Whiskey A Go Go on Sunset. that show was probably their best show that i saw and they were high as hell. don't care for all the stuff and some is probably really dated but there are more hits than misses in their catalog over the years.

i actually went to that Depeche Mode show and left early, must have been the Songs of Faith and Devotion tour. today, i'm thinking why the hell did i leave early? David was really wasted from what i remember thou.

Pills is a good Automator beat but that ending will always be eh

i saw a scream show at shepherd's bush empire xmas 94 that had the sabres of paradise live band as support, a dj set from chemical bros (when dust bros), an unannounced acoustic set from noel gallagher and an encore of so sad about us and dark end of the street (and the remix version of jailbird maaaaybe?) with primal scream, NG and paul weller

i posit to you that this is the most 1994est night's indie entertainment of all 1994

Interesting about Dark End of the Street. I just checked out this playlist Bobby did for the Guardian and he bookends the playlist with different versions. https://open.spotify.com/user/primal-scream/playlist/0v4fWSjpdokf6WitD4xW8F?si=_JOc3z8xQx2omzkhgT8zxA

Will rep for this album, which everyone (including me) forgets, but which is ace:
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and I fucking love the end of Pills, you just have to go with it

this twitter "tribute" to Denise doesn't seem right.

We were sad to hear about the passing of Denise Johnson. Our condolences to her family and friends. Denise's vital contributions to our Screamadelica & Give Out But Don't Give Up albums and tours are a testament to her talent. Precious Memories. ❤️ pic.twitter.com/gTlFiqn0kS

— Primal Scream (@ScreamOfficial) July 28, 2020

Actually, maybe it was bad of me to bring that here. Everyone deals with things differently, after all.

What's wrong with it?

It seemed unfeeling to me but maybe I'm wrong.

I had second thoughts as soon as I posted it.

It's a bit awkward.

Too formal?

Generally, she does seem very well loved.

Perhaps, yes. And yes, she does. I spoke to her at the Glasgow Plaza ballroom PS/The Orb gig that was just before Screamadelica came out and she seemed very nice and very shy.

You'd sort of imagine that there would be a beautiful anecdote about a glorious, ridiculous, messy time. I'm sure that will appear in time.

^ just searched, Kris Needs has a twitter but only twooted once

I agree that it reads weirdly. Each of the four sentences in that tweet works to distance the band from Denise Johnson. The odd use of the past tense in the first sentence; making it clear in the second that they're not among her friends; precisely describing the boundaries of her contribution in the third; lastly, reinforcing that it was all in the past. I bet it reflects less ill-feeling towards her and more mild umbrage at the "Primal Scream singer dies" headlines.

This is warmer:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jul/28/denise-johnson-the-voice-of-manchesters-dancefloors

Eyeball Kicks, that's my problem with it, I think. Well said.

Yes, that was neatly summarized!

They sued her over this a year ago.

What a set of wank stains...

This artwork was going on a website where ALL proceeds were going to charity.
Some grass has alerted Primal Scream so now the record company's complained that it infringes copyright.
How can you fucking copyright colours?

And err.. Funkadelic? pic.twitter.com/iiSQgp1I2i

— Denise Johnson (@TheDJohnsonR3AL) May 14, 2019

It's a cold tweet and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Deafening silence from Boaby.

I can't believe someone who used to wear a nazi SS badge has been exposed as a peevish grasping shithead!

young Boaby when he was a 2nd rate C86 jangler needs a visit from the ghost of rock 'n' roll past to stop him become a scroogelike miser

Gillespie is resolutely dislikeable, always comes across as a pounding pain in the arse in interviews, and I say that as someone who probably shares about 95% of his political beliefs.

Terry Christian not holding back....

Luke warm bullshit . You fucked her over like the money grubbing snides you were. Gillespie couldn't even look her in the eye in London 18 months ago. Without her you're just a 2nd rate pub rock outfit...not even shit on her shoes https://t.co/Yz68C4rE6S

— terry christian (@terrychristian) July 29, 2020

damn.

Good man, Terry.

other than the lawsuit above, what exactly went down between them?

Anyway, I'm glad I saw her a few years back with ACR. She was fantastic.

TC doesnae miss. Boaby is an arse of a man.

I prefer my Boaby.

(xp) This lawsuit seems more than enough to sour relationships.

Reading the Terry Christian thread, it seems that she was uncredited on an album and was dismissed as a backing singer (after having seemed part of the band).

Yes, there's a screenshot of a tweet from her where she mentions a (legal, I assume) letter to her where her contributions were described as 'insignificant'.

wow, that's so horrible.

Sueing the only actual black person associated with the band, the band whose singer never stops harping on about how much he uniquely loves black music - great look, Bob!

Ugh. She was such a significant part of the band from a listener's perspective at the time, and it seems especially vicious to be so dismissive recently, when the band has had a female bass player as a presumably permanent member for ages

^ oh lol - per wikipedia, Simone Butler, who replaced Debbie Googe, is marked as "2012–28/07/2020"

hmmm

When a 15 second clip says it all. I’ll just leave this here....... pic.twitter.com/UoaQpwo8ih

— Natalie-Eve Williams (@natalieeveradio) August 18, 2020

This band's me too moment is way, way, waaaaaaaay overdue, but...

I'm slowly coming to realise that everything that teenage me loved and raved about this group was nothing to do with the floppy pretty-boy abuser frontman.

Oh, feelings, you are complicated.

God he looks like such an absurd tool with his clapping/jumping jack moves, and not in a good way. There will be a special part of hell for boab where he has to eat his ss badge and re-live every toe-curlingly embarrassing part of his life again with added self-awareness of what an absolute risible (not in a good way) fool he is. Hopefully he is in that hell now!

I probably said this way, way upthread somewhere, but the last time of the three I saw them -- this would have been Evil Heat days -- when Bobby ambled out on stage there were cheers and all but when Mani appeared that tore the roof off, and he was loving it. Bobby, less so.

Mani’s cameo in 24 Hour Party People got loud applause at the Laemmle Santa Monica screening room I saw it in. People love him.