US Politics, March 2018: Why do people leave the White House for good?

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You decide what to do with the bucket.

I leprecan't even. (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 19 March 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

pee tape says what https://t.co/tRWqAypEAR pic.twitter.com/aYQJ3ltQXv

— Andrew Kirell (@AndrewKirell) March 19, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 19 March 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

not really sure what thread this goes in at this point tbh.

holy shit https://t.co/JYj4XKJgNY pic.twitter.com/rXcrixCU9i

— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) March 19, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 19 March 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link

"This report is Part Two of a Channel 4 News series, ‘Data, Democracy and Dirty Tricks’, investigating Cambridge Analytica. Part Three, on the company’s work in the United States, will be broadcast at 7pm tomorrow (Tuesday, 20 March 2018)."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 19 March 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link

all this talk about the trump presidential library is pointless - a president's term needs to end before a library can be built and president trump is gonna usher in the end of the world before his work in the oval office is done in the traditional sense

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 19 March 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link

Here is the updated list of the Democrats who voted to deregulate Wall Street. Look at all the money they took from “securities and investment” between 2013 and now according to @OpenSecretsDC. pic.twitter.com/uUhowm4OUH

— Walker Bragman (@WalkerBragman) March 18, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 March 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link

good news outta PA

BREAKING: #SCOTUS will not stop PA’s new congressional districts from going into effect, denying Pa Republicans’ request for a stay of the PA Supreme Court decision. There were no noted dissents. pic.twitter.com/m1MFx8r7QB

— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) March 19, 2018

Simon H., Monday, 19 March 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link

nice

sleeve, Monday, 19 March 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link

All those connections. All that money. Law school. Fancy suits. Prep school.

And you’re writing for Paste.

I’d lash out at me too, @WalkerBragman.

😘

— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) December 26, 2017

Not mentioned is that his dad has been attorney for Jared Kushner's Southampton synagogue

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 19 March 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link

Does anyone else think that the Cambridge Analytica skeeze above, is preparing an "out" for DJT if something surfaces? as in, "clearly these people sent the hookers / pool cleaner / hot cops to entrap me, and they cut the video just before I kicked their asses and told them to get out of America"?

startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 19 March 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link

yes

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 March 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link

it's the third oldest trick in the book -- the 'reverse birther'

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 19 March 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

what is any of that walkerbragman/ imani gandy stuff about? throwing some twitter link in here to two pundits having a fight with no context doesn't really do anything useful

akm, Monday, 19 March 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link

FWIW

Breaking: Channel 4 just announced they’re airing another undercover film tomorrow where Cambridge Analytica say they won the election for Donald Trump and describe how. This is a car crash airing live on TV. Journalism matters.

— Kevin Beaumont, Esquire (@GossiTheDog) March 19, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link

And, um...this doesn't seem smart.

Facebook say they have sent a forensic team to Cambridge Analytica’s London office.

— Kevin Beaumont, Esquire (@GossiTheDog) March 19, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

Bragman has had a lot of bad takes but there’s nothing wrong with the tweet of his upthread imo. Reasonable to assume those senators were doing their donors a solid, no apparent political/pleased constituent benefit of that vote on their end despite being elected in red states..

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

Getting fun over there in the UK

BREAKING: Facebook WAS inside Cambridge Analytica's office but have now "stood down" following dramatic intervention by UK Information Commissioner's Office..

— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) March 19, 2018

The ICO is trying to get a warrant tonight to go in tonight. BUT no judge available...

— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) March 19, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link

Team being assembled for tomorrow morning...

— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) March 19, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/U4MTyaq.jpg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 19 March 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

Lmaooooo

frogbs, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

I remember thinking Mad Magazine was funny but this kind of thing just isn't funny to me right now. Hopefully the next administration restores my ability to take a joke.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link

That's not real. That cannot be real.

Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 March 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

God, to live in a world where I have to even momentarily question whether that's real...

Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 March 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

what is any of that walkerbragman/ imani gandy stuff about? throwing some twitter link in here to two pundits having a fight with no context doesn't really do anything useful

a fight three months ago, no less

papa don't take no meth (stevie), Monday, 19 March 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

A man has no face

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 19 March 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link

Problems, problems.

New from @CarolLeonnig: Trump's lawyers are trying to limit an interview of Trump by Mueller by turning over "written descriptions" of events (wording that Trump's lawyers, obviously, are able to control) —> https://t.co/hwUqBgvCyP pic.twitter.com/IJaO0qiqRP

— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) March 19, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link

Just saw that. Beeeeeeeest of luck.

Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 March 2018 21:53 (six years ago) link

Ken Starr forced Clinton to testify for like an hour and a half on camera

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 March 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

I think that video leaked in like, negative 20 minutes or something

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 March 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

"penchant for making erroneous claims"

would be nice if more journalist just said "is a liar"

Karl Malone, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

but it's kind of rude to acknowledge that trump is a liar, i guess. better to say that he has an adventurous relationship with the truth, etc

Karl Malone, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

he's a firebrand

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

uh Sarah Palin has that moniker copywritten

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link

would be nice if more journalist just said "is a liar"

The basic problem is that every president tells lies for public consumption, but until now they've been very careful and circumspect about it, picking their ground and hedging their statements. Trump just doesn't care and lies reflexively, daily, and about whatever he thinks makes him look good in that instant. Because there are never any lasting repercussions as far as he can see**, so why not?

**unlike every other politician, he can't think as far as the next election.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link

This Cambridge Analytica stuff sounds insane. And there’s still more to come.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

**unlike every other politician, he can't think as far as the next election.

this is a little too generous.. feel like he's just living from one news cycle to the next.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link

mentioned here yet that Facebook's Chief security guy just quit in protest?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link

my brain is really starting to hurt

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link

Reasonable to assume those senators were doing their donors a solid

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, March 19, 2018 9:09 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really? Which "donors"? Those contributions come mostly from individuals who work in those industries. The "donors" you purport to reference are the companies they work for. There's an identity between the two only for the owners/executives of the firms.

And please to explain why all these Democrats who got similar or more from the sector (which is most of them) didn't vote for the bill...
Schumer $3,466,882
Booker $2,685,329
Gillibrand $1,475,574
Wyden $1,001,909
Blumenthal $957,811
van Hollen $858,523
Markey $852,258
Harris $828,790
Murphy $637,240
Brown $628,937
Casey $553,592
Cortez Masto $503,131
Duckworth $492,265
Warren $439,922
Durbin $425,211
Murray $390,609
Klobuchar $383,799
Whitehouse $361,690
Schatz $356,616
Reed $328,500
Menendez $309,310
Udall $256,780
Heinrich $237,052
Cardin $228,050
Baldwin $224,636
Merkley $223,201
Cantwell $196,080
Leahy $183,400
Feinstein $145,415
Hirono $74,650

I thought Schumer, Booker, and Gillibrand were Mr., Jr., and Ms. Wall Street? Why didn't they vote for it? That isn't how this works. That isn't how any of this works. They get the most in no small part because they represent places where people who work in the sector are employed. Similarly, Bennet's and Warner's totals are likely particularly high because both are former VCs (the former for the parent company of AEG Live) who know a lot more people in the industry than your average senator. Warner's buddy Kaine's are likely high because he ran for VP.

Bernie Sanders doesn't make the list as Senate candidate, but here's what his Presidential campaign took from various sectors:
Finance, Insurance & Real Estate $2,525,875
Lawyers & Lobbyists $1,909,486
Defense $348,387
Securities & Investment $323,405

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 19 March 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link

god, the irony of this quote from the head of cambridge analytica, caught on hidden camera: "“I mean, deep digging is interesting,” he said. “But you know equally effective can be just to go and speak to the incumbents and to offer them a deal that’s too good to be true, and make sure that that’s video-recorded, you know. These sorts of tactics are very effective, instantly having video evidence of corruption, putting it on the internet, these sorts of things.”

looool

also, i knew about stephen mercer but somehow didn't realize that steve bannon was also a co-founder.

Karl Malone, Monday, 19 March 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link

jesus christ the politics thread sure is different now

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

hey Brad it is nice to see you back :)

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link

To introduce some real terror -- Daniels's lawyer pretty much implied earlier today that yes, they've got dick pics.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

The Senators who voted for the bill are disproportionately those up for reelection rather than those who aren't, suggesting that theirs was a political judgment at least in part, and they know their states better than you do. They also appear to have made a policy judgment - they largely represent smaller and/or more rural states that are disproportionately home to the small/community banks whose deregulation former Oklahoma/Texas Republican Elizabeth Warren herself has long called for. This bill also deregulated larger banks, and if Democrats controlled the Congress the bar likely would have been set lower, or been subject to a far more robust debate, but they don't, and Warren's championing some degree of deregulation was arguably a political error that helped the bill through.

Even if Warren's right that some of those 'small' banks in the small states are actually pretty big ones, and she is, there are rational arguments that she's wrong on the substance nevertheless - https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/20/warren-aids-big-banks-even-as-she-attacks-them-departing-regulator-says-171651. Like Barney Frank says, he didn't think the bill was a good tradeoff, but he respects the decision of those who voted otherwise - https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/barney-frank-why-i-would-vote-no-on-senate-bill-to-amend-dodd-frank-commentary.html.

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 19 March 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link

Someone's tetchy

Cohen paid off, but never threatened Stormy over an affair that didn't happen and wasn't a campaign concern. Got it? https://t.co/07yHiHygVW

— Amanda Carpenter (@amandacarpenter) March 19, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link

To be a fly on the food:

Because this small little world has turned into a long-running episode of The Trump Show, Cohen left our interview for his son’s baseball game before going to dinner with his wife and some friends at Avra, a scene-y Greek restaurant on Madison Avenue. His wife elbowed him when she saw Avenatti walk in and sit down a few tables away. Cohen got out of his chair and tapped him on the shoulder. “I just wanted to introduce myself,” he says he told Avenatti. “It was totally cordial.”

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link

BradN, the power is in our hands....

Presidents haven't been THAT careful and circumspect about lying. They just know to do it in the acceptable niches.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link

They generally have some sense of plausible deniability. Of course, that was all just PC nonsense keeping people from saying what they truly felt. In the Trump world they just say whatever no matter how blatantly offensive, dumb, or false.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link

Hey Moo that’s pretty interesting and a lot more helpful than the earlier tweet about Bragman.

Kind of struck by the idea that Warren’s vocal opposition may have compelled/forced red state Dems up for re-election in a position of having to vote for it. However seems like kind of a must that some figure of national party leadership be out there voicing those concerns.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 19 March 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link


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