US Politics, March 2018: Why do people leave the White House for good?

For that Canadian to have irony, he'd have to admit that he lives in a province/city that just exalted to the elder Ford brother, loved the book uTOpia in 2005 or its nu-hippy after effects (despite its erasure of most of the city), bitches about real estate prices now, and still feels way, way less guilty than the average American lacking health insurance and having to sit down at dinner or deal online with people who love inexcusable relatives.

it's a lot to take in and ironize. but sure: kill the fbi. i mean christ, KILL ICE. you ever go to jim's best western, Simon?

Maybe we should take this to the cdn poli thread but honestly not one word of that makes sense and I ain't being ironic

fine, fine. put simply: it's very easy for canidians to adopt an ideologically pure view of the us because they refuse to analogize their own politics with america's and no one is asking them too. that's what i meant. like it's all fun and games to be like 'hang comey' but when i go home and see hand wringing about the most obvious shit, it feels weak.

it's like that Dane on here waving his finger to and fro shouting 'i love women if they want me to' and it's so boring and obvious i want to observe him in a movie theater thinking about when to furrow a brow

what a luxury! you don't have to condescend just 'cause you're better

yeah simon, stop idealizing canadian politics so much

sure, cause the last three posts on the canpoli threat aren't mocking trump's justin fibs and simon's last contribution isn't a pathetic hope for the ontario ndp party not to be milquetoast. it is, it will be. and it's a shame. but like i said, it's either hand-wringing or hand-rubbing.

Oh I see. You are drunk. That's ok then. Carry on then.

i'm not, i'm just deeply tired of people of who have imaginary (or barely-there) stakes trying to purify discourses that they treat as side-conversations during the course of a normal day. so, the imaginary hard line/utopia of 'what if there wasn't law enforcement' or 'what if the fbi not only got rid of trump but then also fell on it's condemnable, historically evil sword' strikes me as so idiotic and useless a contribution to ongoing discourse that i want to go out of my way to call out people stroking that particular hardon.

i drive behind people going nowhere with 2.8 million bumper stickers (the popular vote!) on their ten-year-old subarus every day and i also want to run them off the road.

like is hard to come to the conclusion that you feel aggrieved? most people don't have that problem.

Oh a ton of the posts on these threads are contemptuously predictable, especially the ones from people who have no stake in the game whatsoever. But without that it would just be schadenfreude subtweets alternating with apocalyptic sandwich boards. If these threads contained only salient remarks from people with valid and reasoned perspectives then there’d be one per year instead of 12.

sometimes when i read this thread (or the prior twelve) in the middle of my day (despite and including reductive, sometimes hilarious old lunchisms) i get a better understanding of what the fuck is happening with a slant towards fears and hopes i hold. it's when things sink into moral tumescence-checking about america's sins (hey stranger!) that i wonder if it wouldn't be better for the rest of the world to have a pat-each-other's-back board they can come moisturized to.

Adrian Lamo, hacker who reported Chelsea Manning to the FBI, dead at 37

mighta lived just a lil too long

love you morbz but fp'd

Dear Lord, please make it so

― El Tomboto

ok, ex-christian here. i struggled for a year to see if i could find a way to condemn these hypocritical hatemongers as False Christians while exalting myself as a True Christian. couldn't do it. still think there's a lot of good stuff in the bible, still believe huge chunks of it tbh, but to be totally honest all christians are cafeteria christians. if christianity wants to have another civil war frankly i'm all for it, but i'm out.

was A.L. an ilxor or sumthin?

i read his obit. what i took out of it was a guy who tried to do the right thing but made a pretty awful mistake. i don't know the details, i don't know if the story in my head is true, but i can't help but think of kevin carter. also, i'm assuming (terrible thing, assuming, but we all do it) lamo's death was suicide, which is a bit of a sensitive topic for me.

he's tweeting up a storm this morning

icymi

Paul Ryan used private information to make insider trades during the height of the financial crisis. https://t.co/mSiKX0pUBm

— abolish ice. send homan to the hague. (@SeanMcElwee) March 17, 2018

From 2012?

like i said, in case you MISSED it

Much love to lion in winter, someone with real skin in this game. I'd wager that not many among us have to deal so directly with the ill effects of this administration in the way you do, and I'm glad my terrified and ineffectual gibbering from the mouth of the void can occasionally give you a laff or two.

lmao sorry for apparently prompting a bunch of that after I logged off

Wtf is a “hardened democrat”

typically they sit in a circle with other hardened democrats and

From yesterday, but pity them, the sadly unemployable:

The mood at the White House these days — a former Trump WH official texts me: “I’ve been trying to find jobs for some people still inside and nobody wants to hire a White House person. It’s toxic ... Everyone inside is broken. ... Everyone is resigned to the worst.”

— Daniel Lippman (@dlippman) March 17, 2018

awwwww

haaaa, look at all the broken people

“I don’t know what the designs are on Mueller, but it seems to be building toward that,” Flake said, after referencing “firings like this happening at the top from the President and the attorney general.”

“And I just hope it doesn’t go there, because it can’t,” he said. “We can’t, in Congress, accept that.”

Tapper pressed, saying that with a few exceptions, “I haven’t seen a lot of pushback from Republicans” in response to Trump’s attacks against the Russia probe.

“Do you really think that [Senate Majority Leader] Mitch McConnell and [House Speaker] Paul Ryan will stand up and say ‘No, Mr. President, you can’t do this’?” he asked.

“I hope so,” Flake responded. “Talking to my colleagues all along, it was, ‘Once he goes after Mueller, then we’ll take action.’ I think that people see that as a massive red line that can’t be crossed.”

thoughts and prayers

‘Once he goes after Mueller, then we’ll take action.’ I think that people see that as a massive red line that can’t be crossed.”

lol stop it you fucking pussy

btw, i encourage everyone to sign up for something like this:

https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response-events/search/

in the event of a mueller firing, there will be hundreds of rallies nationwide at either 5pm the same day or noon the next day, depending on the timing. signing up will mean that you'll get a text/email reminding you when and where your local rally is (and also means you will get over 300 moovaugn.org emails a day, until you change your subscription preferences). in chicago alone there are about 5000 people signed up for the federal plaza rally. i think it's really important to send an immediate resounding message when this shit that we can all see coming a million miles away happens.

I think based on the fact that Chait and Campos are freaking out about it that it’s not going to happen. Firing Mueller doesn’t make it go away at this point. It would turn everything that’s been discovered so far into fodder for massive public leaks.

Trump has a photo of Chait on his bathroom wall

"Wtf is a “hardened democrat”"
watch out of Anthony Weiner is gonna start texting you

Why does the adventuring party have 13 hardened Player Characters, some big Crooked Magic Users, and Zero Non-Player Characters? Another Bard recently added...does anyone think this is fair to the Dungeon Monsters? And yet, there is NO TREASURE!

— Dungeons And Donalds (@DungeonsDonald) March 18, 2018

Why does Wizard Mueller countsil have 13 hardy Elves, some bigly Wicked Hillbo friends, and Zero Goblins? So dirty- and CRUEL! Another Elfs saids soon ago...does anyone thinks its fair precious? And yets, there is NO CORIDDLINGS! WE SAYS SO! More we tweetrums, more they BELIEVES!

— Gollum J. Trump (@realGollumTrump) March 18, 2018

Totally unsurprising but if he thinks this was going to help him...

Trump, who wants all coverage of him and info about him to be on his terms, had people sign long-term NDAs heading into the White House https://t.co/f33IFzBJQm

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) March 18, 2018

Must protect his trade secrets from the competition.

THE SECRET INGREDIENT IS URINE.

have we done this one yet

A White House staffer wrote his encrypted email password on White House letterhead and then left it at a bus stop https://t.co/7cpgAuflMw pic.twitter.com/qJ1Xsqg0G7

— Sam Biddle (@samfbiddle) March 17, 2018

dang I wish "Bus stop" by the Volebeats was on youtube

sure, cause the last three posts on the canpoli threat aren't mocking trump's justin fibs and simon's last contribution isn't a pathetic hope for the ontario ndp party not to be milquetoast. it is, it will be. and it's a shame. but like i said, it's either hand-wringing or hand-rubbing.

― lion in winter, Sunday, March 18, 2018 12:08 AM (sixteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just saw this and not sure exactly what you're saying here. What is the right response to Trump making shit up about Canada's 'brutal' trade practices, in the context of renegotiating existing trade agreements, though? Being able to have a dark lol about it is a way to relieve real stress about something that could have a very real impact on Canadians, esp for someone who lives and works in the US on a NAFTA visa most of the year.

DEVELOPING: Two injured after another explosion in Austin, Texas. https://t.co/5HP3GBiDAs pic.twitter.com/G5GElXu2i5

— ABC News (@ABC) March 19, 2018

http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/379005-house-intel-republican-panel-did-not-investigate-collusion

https://youtu.be/9S6Uacb0mR0?t=2m39s

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/what-hope-hicks-learned-in-washington.html

Ivanka understands that her father is gonna be dead in ten years.

he still won't step aside

Weekend At Donnie's

From the Hicks article linked by Maura:

no matter how dead any of the eccentrics or maniacs or divas appeared to be, how far away from the president their status as fired or resigned or never-hired-in-the-first-place should have logically rendered them, nobody was ever truly gone. The people who were problems on the campaign or on the inside continued to be problems. The president’s taste for the other and the new was so established that the most driven among them knew that all they had to do was wait for an opening, or shrewdly create one — a weakened staffer, a particularly demoralizing news cycle — and they could worm their way back in.

tough piece to get through but mostly worth it so far? ugh @ the tabloid tailing service bit. this pic is great

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/16/magazine/16-hope-hicks-04.nocrop.w710.h2147483647.jpg

I like how the piece ends with the assumption -- which she apparently holds -- that she will stay loyal and hopefully escape further attention.

I...doubt that.