Your 2020 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

indeed there's something a little automatonic there, that's just gravy

https://i.imgur.com/5XGvVmJ.jpg

eh, not so much i guess

He looks a lot like someone I've worked with.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/21/mitch-landrieu-2020-democrats-473648
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/379660-los-angeles-mayor-headed-to-iowa

Re: Landrieu...

"[Obama’s Iowa field director in 2008 and battleground states director in 2012] added, 'He would be one of the few candidates who I think could appeal to the African-American community and the white working class.'”

I think that's right. I also think the others who fall into that category include:

Joe Biden (Af-Am community mostly by proxy, but could be made up by strength of WWC appeal)
Mark Cuban (not a Democrat)
Van Jones (running?)
Dwayne the whatever Johnson (who I try not to think about)

But I'm not sure who else. Patrick, maybe, and I don't rule out the possibility of Garcetti or some of the other younger people, but they'll have a hill to climb.

unrelated, but: gillibrand endorsing cuomo has prob tarnished her uh brand with a lot of lefties

gillibrand endorsing cuomo

oh damn i missed that. fucking boo

He seems like an overwhelming favorite in the race, so staying on the good side of the governor of the state you represent in the senate is just good business imo.

lol wait, Van Jones?

I wasn't aware Gillibrand had a "brand with a lot of lefties" who would care that she inevitably endorsed Cuomo.

Didn't Van Jones get harangued out of the Obama admin early on for some reason right wing media drummed up? I'm sure they'd love to use it again, whatever it was.

I'll be curious to see if any major dems endorse Nixon xp

Yes. He's also been on an 18-month Trumplandia listening tour that's won him a bit of an audience there.

re Van - i think he flirted with 9/11 trutherism or something?

well i mean he had that great moment on the night of the election when he was arguing with lewandoski. but then there's this

When I say #NeverTrump, I don't mean THIS Trump. #NerdProm #WHCD #cnn @cnn @EricTrump pic.twitter.com/k7eZyteJUQ

— Van Jones (@VanJones68) May 1, 2016

oof

I wasn't aware Gillibrand had a "brand with a lot of lefties" who would care that she inevitably endorsed Cuomo.

― Moo Vaughn, Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:28 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk i thought i'd seen her touted (along with harris) as a possible candidate to appeal to both the sanders and clinton contingents?

unrelated, but: gillibrand endorsing cuomo has prob tarnished her uh brand with a lot of lefties

― gbx, Thursday, March 22, 2018 1:21 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I found this disappointing but it doesn't significantly change how I feel about her as a potential candidate. if a lot of people view something this small-potatoes as a dealbreaker then I'm going to go ahead and wager on four more years of Trump.

fwiw I haven't actually *seen* anyone dismiss her offhand over the Cuomo thing

and yes esp since Warren has said repeatedly she's not running a lot of people seem to have their hopes pinned to her

The timing of Gillibrand’s endorsement coming so close after Nixon’s announcement lends credence to Johnny Fever’s point, imo. Like “let’s get this over with ASAP and that way at least his office won’t be bothering us five times a day about it”

anyone who's followed Gillibrand closely since she ascended to the Senate knows that her moves "left" were just, um, reGillibranding

candidates who can opportunistically pivot left >>> inflexible centrists

Yes, he's weirdly, maybe even suspiciously Trumpy. A potentially rose-colored take is that he's just seeking to understand/empathize with the other side in the service of understanding how to win them over/back, on his or someone else's behalf.

My attitude has basically always been fuck 'em, the reachable ones, many of whom are low-info voters inchoately voting for whatever's different, have four years to and will figure this out on their own in numbers sufficient to reverse the marginal deficits, something there's pretty good evidence they're doing - http://americancommunities.org/2018/03/for-trump-and-the-gop-warning-signs-in-the-middle-suburbs/.

fwiw I haven't actually *seen* anyone dismiss her offhand over the Cuomo thing

― Simon H., Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:37 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i saw some tweets about it but, you know, tweets

idk i thought i'd seen her touted (along with harris) as a possible candidate to appeal to both the sanders and clinton contingents?

― gbx, Thursday, March 22, 2018 5:35 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm sure there's a small cohort of mostly young people who preferred Sanders to Clinton and might find Gillibrand or Harris an attractive compromise, but whoever's touting that likely has a pretty different notion of what their respective 'contingents' are than I do, and the person they're looking for, if they exist, is Warren.

For the fantasists - http://observer.com/2017/02/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-president-2020/

People will get over it probably.

Garcetti is probably just trying to raise his profile.. lefties in LA hate his damn guts because of the olympics and the festering sore that is our homeless problem. A problem that apparently doesn't need the mayor to be in town to deal with, since he's never here anymore.

Garcetti is very likely running for President.

A lot of those 'middle counties' incidentally are 'worst shithole of a (not-quite-)major American city' or at least biggest-city-population-loss counties of the mostly-rust belt: Indy, Cincy, Cleveland, Detroit, and Pittsburgh burbs, Youngstown, Flint, Saginaw, Gary, Hammond, Akron, Canton, Dayton, Lima, Peoria, Rockford, St. Joseph, Quad cities, Green Bay, Oshkosh, South Bend, Evansville, Terre Haute, Jackson MI, Wheeling, Scranton-Wilkes Barre, Atlantic City, Reading, Hagerstown, York PA, Huntington and Parkersburg WV, Edwardsville IL, etc.

could have put the etc a lot earlier tbh

or added "I've been everywhere, man!"

^^^ irl lol, kudos

They say the heart of rock and roll is still beatin, in Cleveland, Detroit, Hagerstown, Pakersburg, Edwardsville....

could have put the etc a lot earlier tbh

― mh, Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:29 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They all look the same to you, huh.

if they're all unique and notable for different reasons, please continue the list

I stopped roughly where they stopped being at least personally interesting

Garcetti is very likely running for President.

can't think of this guy without thinking of this guy:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/The_Wire_Carcetti.jpg/220px-The_Wire_Carcetti.jpg

Though I also omitted Gretna as a non-regional outlier

i know he was based on O'Malley, but Eric seems to fit that profile even more

Y'all generally have to explain your television references to me, though the O'Malley cite did the trick.

I knew Garcetti was going to be a much bigger name down the road when I almost literally ran into him six years ago, but thought it would probably take a bit longer for him to run for Prez. I'm not sure to what degree he's more scintillating than O'Malley, but he's definitely less of a weirdo.

oh, to literally run into you

Ok, Joe Biden.

I'll make sure to say hello next time.

xp but do you really think anyone who does not live in new york city is going to give a statistically measurable shit about gillibrand endorsing cuomo

everyone's just writing in "bernie" this time anyway, right?

a senator endorsing a 2-time guv from her own party = predictable as sunrise

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/22/trump-vs-biden-who-would-win-217698

hopefully neither lives that long