Your 2020 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

kasich is definitely running in 2020

I’ll let you know who starts hanging out in Iowa for some reason or another. It’s a decent barometer

Kasich supposedly is more wont to run as independent than to primary Trump. Supposedly, but that's probably reflective of an accurate estimation that he wouldn't get far in a primary.

i think it's really hard to guess at what the situation will be like in spring 2020, even more than it usually is 2 away from a primary. the Trump situation is chaotic in so many ways right now - you could be looking at a fractured GOP with an embattled Trump lashing out, a united GOP behind President Pence, we could be in the middle of some new war created by Bolton, Trump, and Pompeo, the economy could crash...who knows. The only thing I know is that I don't trust anyone who claims to know what's going to happen.

not be ageist but romney is deceptively old - currently 71

romney is the one i'm concerned about.

― Karl Malone, Friday, March 16, 2018 6:59 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQaZKquLa5M

he is old, but every election the age thing comes up in a lot of elections but

2016: Trump (70), Clinton (69), Sanders (75)
2012: Romney (65)
2008: McCain (72)

and of course reagan.

The same band of white people who voted against Romney voted against Hillary. It's not like the nation is soul-searching for a sane billionaire to run things.

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/03/Michael-Avenatti-37-Thumbnail.jpg

this guy drives race cars and looks ready to murder somebody, I'm in

he looks like one of those facial recognition software research paper "average face" images

lmao like matt lauer, vlad putin, and john travolta mixed into one face

there's at least 10% christian slater in there as well

wait a goddamn minute

indeed there's something a little automatonic there, that's just gravy

https://i.imgur.com/5XGvVmJ.jpg

eh, not so much i guess

He looks a lot like someone I've worked with.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/21/mitch-landrieu-2020-democrats-473648
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/379660-los-angeles-mayor-headed-to-iowa

Re: Landrieu...

"[Obama’s Iowa field director in 2008 and battleground states director in 2012] added, 'He would be one of the few candidates who I think could appeal to the African-American community and the white working class.'”

I think that's right. I also think the others who fall into that category include:

Joe Biden (Af-Am community mostly by proxy, but could be made up by strength of WWC appeal)
Mark Cuban (not a Democrat)
Van Jones (running?)
Dwayne the whatever Johnson (who I try not to think about)

But I'm not sure who else. Patrick, maybe, and I don't rule out the possibility of Garcetti or some of the other younger people, but they'll have a hill to climb.

unrelated, but: gillibrand endorsing cuomo has prob tarnished her uh brand with a lot of lefties

gillibrand endorsing cuomo

oh damn i missed that. fucking boo

He seems like an overwhelming favorite in the race, so staying on the good side of the governor of the state you represent in the senate is just good business imo.

lol wait, Van Jones?

I wasn't aware Gillibrand had a "brand with a lot of lefties" who would care that she inevitably endorsed Cuomo.

Didn't Van Jones get harangued out of the Obama admin early on for some reason right wing media drummed up? I'm sure they'd love to use it again, whatever it was.

I'll be curious to see if any major dems endorse Nixon xp

Yes. He's also been on an 18-month Trumplandia listening tour that's won him a bit of an audience there.

re Van - i think he flirted with 9/11 trutherism or something?

well i mean he had that great moment on the night of the election when he was arguing with lewandoski. but then there's this

When I say #NeverTrump, I don't mean THIS Trump. #NerdProm #WHCD #cnn @cnn @EricTrump pic.twitter.com/k7eZyteJUQ

— Van Jones (@VanJones68) May 1, 2016

oof

I wasn't aware Gillibrand had a "brand with a lot of lefties" who would care that she inevitably endorsed Cuomo.

― Moo Vaughn, Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:28 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk i thought i'd seen her touted (along with harris) as a possible candidate to appeal to both the sanders and clinton contingents?

unrelated, but: gillibrand endorsing cuomo has prob tarnished her uh brand with a lot of lefties

― gbx, Thursday, March 22, 2018 1:21 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I found this disappointing but it doesn't significantly change how I feel about her as a potential candidate. if a lot of people view something this small-potatoes as a dealbreaker then I'm going to go ahead and wager on four more years of Trump.

fwiw I haven't actually *seen* anyone dismiss her offhand over the Cuomo thing

and yes esp since Warren has said repeatedly she's not running a lot of people seem to have their hopes pinned to her

The timing of Gillibrand’s endorsement coming so close after Nixon’s announcement lends credence to Johnny Fever’s point, imo. Like “let’s get this over with ASAP and that way at least his office won’t be bothering us five times a day about it”

anyone who's followed Gillibrand closely since she ascended to the Senate knows that her moves "left" were just, um, reGillibranding

candidates who can opportunistically pivot left >>> inflexible centrists

Yes, he's weirdly, maybe even suspiciously Trumpy. A potentially rose-colored take is that he's just seeking to understand/empathize with the other side in the service of understanding how to win them over/back, on his or someone else's behalf.

My attitude has basically always been fuck 'em, the reachable ones, many of whom are low-info voters inchoately voting for whatever's different, have four years to and will figure this out on their own in numbers sufficient to reverse the marginal deficits, something there's pretty good evidence they're doing - http://americancommunities.org/2018/03/for-trump-and-the-gop-warning-signs-in-the-middle-suburbs/.

fwiw I haven't actually *seen* anyone dismiss her offhand over the Cuomo thing

― Simon H., Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:37 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i saw some tweets about it but, you know, tweets

idk i thought i'd seen her touted (along with harris) as a possible candidate to appeal to both the sanders and clinton contingents?

― gbx, Thursday, March 22, 2018 5:35 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm sure there's a small cohort of mostly young people who preferred Sanders to Clinton and might find Gillibrand or Harris an attractive compromise, but whoever's touting that likely has a pretty different notion of what their respective 'contingents' are than I do, and the person they're looking for, if they exist, is Warren.

For the fantasists - http://observer.com/2017/02/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-president-2020/

People will get over it probably.

Garcetti is probably just trying to raise his profile.. lefties in LA hate his damn guts because of the olympics and the festering sore that is our homeless problem. A problem that apparently doesn't need the mayor to be in town to deal with, since he's never here anymore.

Garcetti is very likely running for President.

A lot of those 'middle counties' incidentally are 'worst shithole of a (not-quite-)major American city' or at least biggest-city-population-loss counties of the mostly-rust belt: Indy, Cincy, Cleveland, Detroit, and Pittsburgh burbs, Youngstown, Flint, Saginaw, Gary, Hammond, Akron, Canton, Dayton, Lima, Peoria, Rockford, St. Joseph, Quad cities, Green Bay, Oshkosh, South Bend, Evansville, Terre Haute, Jackson MI, Wheeling, Scranton-Wilkes Barre, Atlantic City, Reading, Hagerstown, York PA, Huntington and Parkersburg WV, Edwardsville IL, etc.

could have put the etc a lot earlier tbh

or added "I've been everywhere, man!"

^^^ irl lol, kudos

They say the heart of rock and roll is still beatin, in Cleveland, Detroit, Hagerstown, Pakersburg, Edwardsville....

could have put the etc a lot earlier tbh

― mh, Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:29 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They all look the same to you, huh.

if they're all unique and notable for different reasons, please continue the list