2018 NBA Awards Predix & MVPoll

MVP - LaMarcus Aldridge and Kawhi Leonard (tie 1st)
DPOY - Kyle Anderson
6th - Manu Ginobili
COY - Gregg Popovich
MIP - Dejounte Murray
ROY - Derrick White

kyle anderson is a steals maniac, good shot blocker too. wonder what kind of defensive numbers he would put up if he played starter minutes.

kyle has started 54 of the 60 games he's played fyi

didnt realize he was playing 27 minutes a game this season. cool

well, when kawhi and rudy have both been out, their SF slot has been pretty thin. he even occasionally starts at PF with 3 Gs

a guy who should get 6MOY votes but might not: nick vanvleet

was thinking today about how guys like macmillan and scotty brooks don't get the COY buzz mainly because of their bad reputations lol

lol fred* vanvleet

Franks been awesome

van vleet should be in the 6man running altho i don't think he has the raw stats for it. he plays in crunch time for the 3rd best team in the league and that should count.

dpoy

Draymond Green. Defense. Good. pic.twitter.com/GOD4bNqjU2

— Drew Shiller (@DrewShiller) March 17, 2018

James Harden doesn’t want any DNP-rest nights down the stretch of the regular season. “I’m good, I wanna play,” Harden said.

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) March 23, 2018

fwiw harden is known for wanting to play

also known for whining about not winning mvp

yeah i mean im not saying he doesnt want it

just think maybe he should be focused on not breaking down in the playoffs again.

wld be wise for sure

not like he cldnt take a game or two off and still win it too

they've got a pretty easy schedule it would be dumb not to sit him against some of those teams

also got home court wrapped m/l

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html

interesting that the MVP tracker tool on bkref has cp3 and steph 2 and 3 despite all the time they've missed

stephs advanced numbers this year were on par with his unanimous mvp year. dude is shooting nearly 60% from 2p

DPOY and all defense thoughts from pelton:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23032582/2018-nba-all-defense-defensive-player-year-best-picks-position

awww i hope dejounte gets chosen!

wow al horford right behind dray there huh and he can play center for a whole game if he feels like it and shoots 15% better from three

still scared of rebounds tho

keep in mind we are comparing him to dray here

wow al horford right behind dray there huh and he can play center for a whole game if he feels like it and shoots 15% better from three

― lag∞n, Thursday, April 5, 2018 8:36 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago)

shooting 3s not really considered part of defense iirc

its part of basketball tho

just a thought but what if the best defense is good offense?

so...harden is actually....good at defense?

hey i don't make the laws

the laws are the laws

except wheen they're outlaws. because....then theyre out.

heh

The @cavs 10 games better than the @celtics? Hard to see how that's possible. Let's revisit this in the spring.

— Mike Rodman (@MistypedMike) October 13, 2017

seeing lots of parallels between the michell ROY push and derrick rose's MVP tbh

there's this guy who's clearly the superior player on both offense and defense, but let's vote for the inefficient high volume scorer on a dominant defensive team

wuut mitchell has been absolutely amazing the leading scorer on a team thats won like 30 of 34 or something its crazy, wldnt be surprised if simmons wins tho as philly has gone on a run of their own w embiid out and he obvs has the higher ceiling, theyve both had in some ways unpresidented seasons, in most years what tatums done wld be enough to win it and no ones even talking abt him, fwiw its morally and logically correct to dock simmons points for red shirting

simmons has prob caught up to how he wld be playing if he played last year at this point

it’s true mitchell has been the leading scorer on a really good team whose biggest strength is their defense, this was essentially the argument for d rose iirc — but simmons has just clearly been better. I’m not a huge fan of the “imagine if these two players switched teams” voting tactic because so much of production is situation dependent, but I mean if these two switched teams I think it’s pretty clear that the sixers would suffer more

pretty much all the stats suggest mitchell is a...nice 21 year old player while simmons is a legit star btw

i'd prob vote simmons but that's an undersell of mitchell. if he gets to the line a bit more and gets a little more accurate from 3 he's going to be as good at scoring as any guard in the nba outside the top 4 or so.

in general and in conjunction with the point I was making about jokic in the reg season thread earlier we are just not very great at using the eye test to weight different basketball skills in assessing a players overall value, players who get buckets are always going to be overvalued and people who do little things and play defense are always going to be relatively undervalued. I think the eye test happens to support simmons anyway and the stats suggest it's not close but things like he's the leading scorer on a good team that sound so intuitively right are hard to people to shake loose

mitchell def has the potential to be a star, tho tbh simmons is already there and his ceiling seems to be MVP candidate and in the not too distant future, anyway the discussion is about this year and simmons is the better player

creating shots is the single most valuable nba skill u need to put those old musty nerd opinions in storage

I agree it's important but being better at it does not mean the player is necessarily better, hence my point about weighting and how we are bad at it

hitting home runs is the best thing a baseball player can do but it does not necessarily mean that the guy who hits the most home runs is the best player or even the best hitter, makes u think

none of this is to say mitchell hasn't had a sick year, he has, but simmons is way better and we should give the award to the better dude imo

i agree that hes been better and will prob win but i think mitchell has been great and also i think simmons shd be disqualified for redshirting

this breakdown of defensive positional guarding percentages is super cool: https://public.tableau.com/profile/knarsu3#!/vizhome/DefensivePositions/Dashboard1

Check out Ben Simmons

ha yeah pretty evenly distributed as you might expect

lowe's opinions
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23107445/zach-lowe-2017-18-picks-nba-mvp-defensive-player-year-rookie-year-more-awards

he def wasn't the worst, he's about average over 82 games a this point probably tho def very good when he dials it in

dialed it in for prob 10mins this season the rest he took off he was really exceptionally bad, its not a coincidence the cavs were also insanely bad

yeah we are in general agreement that his defense is not great overall

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/sports/nba-dwane-casey-raptors-coach-of-the-year.html

In a vote of his peers, Dwane Casey of the Toronto Raptors has been selected as the National Basketball Coaches Association’s coach of the year for the 2017-18 season — while Brad Stevens of the Boston Celtics stunningly failed to win a single vote from fellow coaches.

Perfect timing

lol i knew it

oh wait thats the peer award still i think the real one will have the same outcome

very weird

2018 NBA All-Defensive teams:

First team: Rudy Gobert, Anthony Davis, Victor Oladipo, Jrue Holiday, Robert Covington.

Second team: Joel Embiid, Draymond Green, Al Horford, Dejounte Murray, Jimmy Butler.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) May 23, 2018

huh, dipo?

heard rumblings of his defense being amazing this year. covington over draymond seems a little suspect to me. but fair enough, he deserves a lot of credit and dray was cruising at 80% all year.

almost surprised roberson didn't make it even tho he only played 35 games or so

dejounte!!!

al shdve been first team

ALL NBA
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd-zN6-VMAAjELY.jpg

Lillard first team O__o

these, wld not be my lists lol

mine wld just be 15 marcus smarts

On the bright side, we don’t have to hear about Dame not getting any respect ever again.

— A.K ⚖️ (@Kungu_NBA) May 24, 2018

don't understand how KAT could make it after the year he's had.

who's out here voting for TREVOR ARIZA for all-nba?