S/D: Thin White Rope?

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Am I right that they more or less stopped because of frustration + weariness with their sheer underratedness? It pains me. There could have been more of these songs.

― when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:59 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's a cycle, though, innit? Like, you get called "underrated" and "overlooked" in enough reviews, that becomes your story, because every review thereafter just parrots the ones from the previous record that talked about how overlooked and underrated you are.

Still, from the looks of it, all's well that ends well. Guy seems to be doing OK, at least, and I bet he's happier where he is than he would be on the road in hellscape 2018

Wish I was around when these records were new, though. Never got to see these guys, had no idea they existed until it was too late

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link

if anyone is still short of live stuff, this youtube channel has quite as few shows up of varying quality:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8tAnV9M2FKiJF2pDbXU0hw/search?query=thin+white+rope

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:17 (six years ago) link

aww, maybe this was the final nail in the coffin for TWR:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUKzXyB_9ZI&feature=youtu.be&t=2720

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link

...i hate this business of visiting my hometown...

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link

Cmon, fess up...you were in Mature Innocence

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link

Jesus, maybe the name "Thin White Rope" isn't so bad after all. "Pause and Effect" sounds like a band Gob Bluth would be in

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

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i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link

On Some days Puppet Dog is in the top 5 best songs ever list

Duke, Friday, 16 March 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link

By the way, the lyrics/credits booklet PDFs weren't included in the remastered Bandcamp downloads so I asked Frontier about them. They had been forgotten but have now been added. Redownload to get them.

StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2018 07:22 (six years ago) link

Remastered Moonhead LP arrived today - sounding great! I still wish they could 'remaster' a new drummer on these recordings but hey

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 22 March 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Think I just got asked to pass this on from the guy who's upping the TWR sets to dime

a note to user nicknamed MaresNest over at a twr forum
i am absolutely fine with you "wetransfering" the files for forum members
just keep track with updates like the 1989-07-12 Vienna Austria U4 FM sound-upgrade from 2 days ago as the pool should stay as clean as possible

Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

sorry can I delete that last post and repost an edited version.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link

Thanks Steveolende, I will grab that next week and put it up for those that desire it.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link

OK I thought I'd posted a name I possibly shouldn't have. So everything's ok then.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

yes please! xpost :-)

StanM, Friday, 20 April 2018 07:48 (five years ago) link

Ah, thanks for the nudge Stan, here 'tis...

https://we.tl/koO86us0Fv

MaresNest, Friday, 20 April 2018 09:56 (five years ago) link

Thanks x 1000 again!

StanM, Friday, 20 April 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

Shame they don't have soundfiles on the website.
Don't think I've really seen that on bandcamp before. Since i thought that was one of the main purposes of bandcamp.

Stevolende, Saturday, 8 September 2018 09:13 (five years ago) link

they'll probably enable them on the release date, next Friday

StanM, Saturday, 8 September 2018 10:12 (five years ago) link

and they're out - Mr. Limpet & Hidden Lands are the sample tracks on bandcamp.

StanM, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

oh wait, all the tracks are playable

StanM, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

Tempted to get the cds. I've all the original vinyl, but I'm playing more and more cds now

Duke, Saturday, 15 September 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

yeah played through all the lps on there yesterday and this morning.
Am tempted to get the cds again. I think i got most of them before. Don't think I got Ruby Sea though.
What's in the booklets?

Stevolende, Saturday, 15 September 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

The Ruby Sea hasn't yet been remastered, right?

Duke, Saturday, 15 September 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link

Oh, thought it might be coming. Wasn't up as such when I listened to it last night. But thought they were doing them all in batches.

Stevolende, Saturday, 15 September 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

Yes I imagine you're right.

Duke, Saturday, 15 September 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

I may wait until Ruby Sea appears then buy them all....

Duke, Saturday, 15 September 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

the pdfs are just the lyrics sheets/booklets as they were before

StanM, Saturday, 15 September 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link

they were going to do the first 5 albums this year, so I suppose The Ruby Sea is still coming up

StanM, Saturday, 15 September 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link

The digital version of Moonhead has four extra tracks compared with the original vinyl. As you can see I'm getting tempted here...

Duke, Sunday, 16 September 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

Seemed like they shuffled around what was on as extra tracks from previous editions.
I think I had a coupl eo fthose tracks on In The Spanish cave but not sure where Roger's Tongue came from.
Some of that stuff is off the Bottom feeders e.p. isn't it? Not sure about chronology of tracks recording so where they fit.
I saw taht In The Spanish cave had Munich Eunuch again

Stevolende, Sunday, 16 September 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link

Can’t wait to compare the sound quality of the new Triangle Song mastering. I don’t want to go into detail rn but there are things about that recording that have really bugged me

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link

One of my favourite songs

Duke, Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

Do tell us what bugs you!

Duke, Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link

Then again, maybe it'll start bugging us all....

Duke, Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link

do you mean the way someone is fiddling with various instrument volumes all the time and how some of it sounds like liquid stereo (I always imagined they reconstructed that track from tapes they had thrown away initially)? yeah, it's still like that.

StanM, Sunday, 16 September 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

Yes. That.

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 16 September 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link

there's probably some clever reason they mixed it like this, but I can't figure it out.

StanM, Monday, 17 September 2018 02:24 (five years ago) link

do mixing desks have randomisation buttons with a triangle on and it felt lol funny to use it for this song? (triangle = D = delta = difference in math writing)

StanM, Monday, 17 September 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link

That almost sounds like a thing someone would do

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Monday, 17 September 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link

Late realization, but watching live videos it's so obvious that Guy Kyser started life as a banjo player. His thumb pick and hand posture are typical Scruggs style.

Duke, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

http://blurtonline.com/feature/story-behind-album-ruby-sea-thin-white-rope/

The Ruby Sea remaster is still coming up + Lisa/Frontier might do an odds and ends compilation and a remaster of The One That Got Away

StanM, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

Thanks for this!

Duke, Saturday, 22 September 2018 11:31 (five years ago) link

LF: I’ll have to wait and see how the reissues go as I need funds to do more, but I certainly hope so– now or anywhere in the future. Guy knows that I’d have a stroke if he ever wrote a new TWR song and/or if he formed a new band of any kind. (He briefly had a bluegrass band with Roger and I drove up to SF alone the instant that I heard they were playing!) My most fervent dream in life is that Guy will return to music, but mostly I want him to be happy in life whether it includes writing or playing music. It’s just that I’d like for Guy and Roger to finally get their due, something Guy could care less about, I’m sure!

This part from lisa fancher made me cry!

It remains a life ambition of mine to shake guy’s hand. <3

I did NOT know he played with a thumb pick! All throughout twr or just later on when the c&w vibe got stronger?

I would really like fancher to write something long about twr again- her liner notes for the When Worlds Collide comp were so great.

Awesome detail that the lyrics for RS came from a solo wilderness wander to get his head straight

Also the clown song is just such a brilliant piece of writing

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 22 September 2018 12:55 (five years ago) link

Watch live TWR videos and you'll see he plays the guitar with thumb pick. Hand posed like a bluegrass banjo player. Guitar tuned to open G, I'd bet

Duke, Saturday, 22 September 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

I remember the Melody Maker review pictured in that article. They were huge TWR fans

I also remember an earlier feature by Everett True, where he ends up joining the chorus at the end of The Fish Song. FISH!!!!

Duke, Saturday, 22 September 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link

FISH!!!

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 22 September 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link


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