US Politics, March 2018: Why do people leave the White House for good?

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big ups to HOOS for gabbneb-Nerdstrom podcast proposal, xo

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link

i'm watching the polls because i'm procrastinating. only about 20% of the results are in so far, but comparing the county-by-county results to the fivethirtyeight.com county-level benchmarks, lamb is already in a strong position.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/13/17116874/conor-lamb-rick-saccone-pennsylvania-18-special-election-live-results

vox seems more up to date. 36% of precincts in, lamb with a 8 point lead so far

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:09 (six years ago) link

Jitter on or off?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/13/us/elections/results-pennsylvania-house-special-election.html
(I only trust upshot/nyt/cohn after nov 2016.)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link

it's going to be very close.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link

whatever the final results, the main takeaway should be that this district swung substantially away from trump since nov 2016 - probably to the tune of around 20 points

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:24 (six years ago) link

and that's your toyota camry main takeaway. toyota camry. "let's go places"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:25 (six years ago) link

62% in and Lamb is 6 points up. Not that close.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:29 (six years ago) link

read section 4: political geography: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-pennsylvania-18th-special-election/

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:29 (six years ago) link

true but I wanna see Trump lose, lose, and lose some more, my main take away is fuck him

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link

it's going to be slowly swinging back toward saccone the rest of the night. 80% of the votes are in from allegheny, the most democratic-leaning county in the district. only 53% are in from westmoreland, a county that leans heavily republican.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link

Well folks, we have some bad news. Westmoreland County has told us that they aren't going to report results by precinct tonight (though they had previously told us they would). The model runs on precinct results so, this is a problem.

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) March 14, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:32 (six years ago) link

*NYT dial swings wildly around in circles*

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link

^^^ "we"/"us" = NYT/Upshot

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link

Alright folks, we've shut the needle down. As mentioned earlier, Westmoreland County isn't going to produce precinct results, as we believed they would. It's the GOP base of the district. We can't responsibly make a forecast without data from there.

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) March 14, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link

so does that mean westmoreland is just gonna be like....here's the whole county *barfs all the results at once*

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link

county website data (62% reporting)

Lamb is up 16 in Allegheny (needs to be +14 to break even, per 538 benchmarks)
Lamb is down 18 in Greene (needs to be -19 to break even)
Lamb is tied in Washington (needs to be -6 to break even)
Lamb is down 12 in Westmoreland ((needs to be -19 to break even)

he's beating the benchmarks in all four counties, very good sign.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:37 (six years ago) link

anyway while we wait can we all just agree that this is a great night for the NY Post

Take a bow, @NYPost pic.twitter.com/dthl70r1Sc

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) March 13, 2018

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link

jfc, hitting refresh on this page and fuuuuuuck

87% reporting, 1.4% lead for lamb

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link

Is Lamb going to squeak out a miraculous victory?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link

just a little napkin math based on what's left to report, I think Lamb wins this by like 500 votes

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link

Lamb's lead actually going up slightly

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:52 (six years ago) link

91% reporting, 0.8% for lamb

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link

94%, +.4% now

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:54 (six years ago) link

this night should end with a sword fight to the death

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:55 (six years ago) link

not feeling good abt this

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:55 (six years ago) link

whats left uncounted?

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:55 (six years ago) link

Alleghany and Westmoreland are gonna cancel each other out, Saccone has a *slight* lead in the other unreported votes but I don't think it'll be enough

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link

They're going to get the exact same number of votes and it will be determined by coin flip, right?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link

95% reporting, 0.5% lamb

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link

this has me all the way fucked up

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link

they're about 1070 votes apart now, with another 1267 votes for drew miller, libertarian

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link

Now .6%. Looks very bad for Saccone

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link

he went down because a bunch of Westmoreland just came in

think there's enough of Alleghany left for Lamb to win it in a squeaker

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr3Z4jHO6Go

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link

if I understand right the remaining votes to be counted favor Lamb. I *think* he's got this

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link

Oh my serious gawd are we really going to do this again? I respect & admire Karl but seriously are. we. ?

it's going to be slowly swinging back toward saccone the rest of the night. 80% of the votes are in from allegheny, the most democratic-leaning county in the district. only 53% are in from westmoreland, a county that leans heavily republican.

Just. No. Don't. Take a nap. Go get drunk. Come back in three hours. This up by X with Y percent, which precincts are yet to be counted, gah, no, just don't.

I leprecan't even. (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link

it's either this or a crossword

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link

i will get drunk though

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link

Almost always a good plan tbh

I leprecan't even. (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:08 (six years ago) link

approx net votes remaining for Lamb, I think:

Washington: -300
Westmoreland: -300
Allegheny: +950

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link

Meantime:

SCOOP: The family of murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich just filed a lawsuit against Fox News, reporter Malia Zimmerman, and Ed Butowsky https://t.co/YYlS6tAKEj

— Michael Del Moro (@MikeDelMoro) March 14, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:10 (six years ago) link

Sorry, Allegheny +450 xp

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:11 (six years ago) link

This is based on my advanced “assume all the counties are uniform, assume votes are distributed equally among precincts, divide a number by another number” model so uh yknow just ignore it

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link

that method's accurate more often than not

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link

i predict Saccone gets typhoid

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:15 (six years ago) link

my method is to just trust god's plan, it all happens for a reason, and then i 'skim' through various numeric predictions in my head and the lord makes one of the feel 'hot' i know the lord's plan. and that plan is for lamb to squeak through on a razor thin margin

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:16 (six years ago) link

I normally disembowel a chicken while facing east,then check the arrangement of the entrails.

The chicken needs to be a virgin, but I don't know why (nor can I tell).

I leprecan't even. (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:18 (six years ago) link

Allegheny count to be done by midnight

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:18 (six years ago) link


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