Xp to Ross I feel like LB found some super close but rounded way to record his guitars with this production. There are all these great little guitar incidents that are tiny yet super present and colorful
― when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link
Papas Fritas admit their Fleetwood Mac influence with a stripped down "Book of Love" cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KJHNddSzLo
However, if you've heard "People Say," you already know how much they love Mirage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxiOSmAE3rM
― Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 03:55 (six years ago) link
She was just a dream maker,Dreamer of sighsShadow on the one who used to cry
― velko, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 06:06 (six years ago) link
Can't believe this revive has not mentioned the incredible "Eyes of the World" yet.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
eyes eyes eyes eyes
― Heez, Thursday, 15 March 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link
BACK AND FORTH LIES UNFUUUURRRLLLL
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link
Love "Straight Back". What a production job building up and sustaining a lyric that's about ... who the f___ knows what but it sounds gorgeous in the process. Great headphones albums these (Rumours thru Tango).
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link
mirage remaster is i think the best remaster i've ever heard
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link
Loving it!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson),
It transformed the album for me.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link
"Straight Back" is the only new song Nicks contributed; "Gypsy" and the too underrated "That's Alright" are Rumours and Tusk cast-offs.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link
I know "Tusk" and "Tango" feature tracks that are, for all purposes, entirely Lindsey. Is that true for "Mirage" as well? Like "Can't Go Back" or "Empire State" or "Oh Diane," they sound like they could be Lindsey solo specials.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link
"Eyes of the World," too. The drums on that one, "Can't Go Back" and "Diane" could even very well be looped or drum machine.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
I'd say "Empire State" sounds like a solo performance.
The band's done terrific live performances of "Eyes of the World" in the last thirty years.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
oh good a new opportunity to embed this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TV6BEwJEKI
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
"Straight Back" is the only new song Nicks contributed; "Gypsy" and the too underrated "That's Alright" are Rumours and Tusk cast-offs.― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 18, 2020 6:16 AM (two hours ago)
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 18, 2020 6:16 AM (two hours ago)
nope, "That's Alright" dates back to the Buckingham/Nicks demos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvFKPtBuNCY
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
Alfred you esp. should hear those demos if you haven't.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
I knew that both Nicks & Buckingham had deep NorCal roots (both attended Menlo-Atherton HS & San Jose State, then Rumours was recorded in Sausalito), but this little gem in the wiki for Buckingham Nicks demo:
In 1972, the two continued to write songs, recording demo tapes at night in Daly City on a half-inch four-track Ampex tape machine Buckingham kept at the coffee roasting plant belonging to his father.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli),
I am! It's frustrating in the best sense to hear McVie's demo for what became "You & I, Part II" and realize what it's missing, hence the Buckingham co-writing credit.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
"Book of Love" still my absolute fave!!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
^^^
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
SURELY HE MUST KNOW ALL THE RUUULLLLES
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
ha ha ha ha
Buckingham’s best work here has this quality of being totally pop and completely unhinged at the same time. I expect him to collapse and start frothing at the mouth during “The Book of Love”.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link
Well, he started frothing in this 1982 performance of "The Chain."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGykwC0fdJ4
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link
https://youtu.be/RTa6KEE9cZU
― calstars, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link
Well, he started frothing in this 1982 performance of "The Chain."📹
― calstars, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link
Buckingham is visibly off his face in the video for Trouble, as are his backimg band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyONfX5bpyQ
― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link
By most/many accounts Lindsey was not into coke, and certainly not to the debilitating degree of Mick or Stevie. I'm sure he dabbled, but I suspect he's just naturally high strung. But then you watch the 1982 video and you think ... just naturally high strung?
It does seem that when bands get into coke that's when things go downhill. But in the case of Fleetwood Mac, when Mick and Stevie went nuts with the stuff it took Lindsey to keep everyone in line (har) and/or salvage their work, which implies he was *not* off his head. And all of his solo stuff is very consistent, very much of a piece and style, so I do wonder if that's just the way he is.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
He's not a coke guy; he's been public for years about his epilepsy. Less so about his anger, especially toward women.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
I defer to you experts but in the Caillat book he mentions LB snorting up the drugs more than once
― calstars, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link
Sure. But Nicks is candid: she has said he did drugs, just fewer and less often than the others
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
From what I know of the era it sounds like everyone was doing some coke, but Lindsey said he was more a pot guy.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link
sigh, I was only able to appreciate “don’t stop” when some poster (m bison?) pointed out that it works better if you imagine Lindsey *extremely on cocaine*
― brimstead, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link
The Simpsons is how I had that revelation, when Bart sings "Don't Stop" after taking a bunch of Focusyn
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link
― brimstead, Tuesday, August 18, 2020 5:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
this sounds like some shit i said, m bison otm
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Thursday, 20 August 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link
terrified that my urge to hear Book Of Love after a dramatic day means I have the emotional maturity of Lindsey Buckingham
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 22 January 2024 03:35 (two months ago) link
whoa oh oh ohhhhhhohhhhhhh
just center yourself on the rock solid emotional maturity of john mcvie, be the penguin
― Florin Cuchares, Monday, 22 January 2024 05:18 (two months ago) link
interesting "that's alright" goes all the way back to buckingham/nicks
an all time tune for me, enjoy the alternate version too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngO6-a6NAIc
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 22 January 2024 12:25 (two months ago) link
One of the last times Nicks could hit those high notes before her nose surrendered to coke.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 January 2024 12:48 (two months ago) link
Love Mirage! That's Alright is a really strong song, after hearing the coffee plant demo and realizing how old it is I'm surprised they waited until the 80s before using it. Maybe it was too C/W for the prior albums? I dunno. Better song to me than I Don't Want to Know or Blue Letter, both older tunes dusted off and repurposed for FM.
― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 02:05 (two months ago) link
"That's Alright" is the only non-single on here that's memorable to me.I was pretty surprised, hearing this record years after their 70s run, how traditional the sound palette was, and especially knowing how completely they'd give in to sampling and programming on the follow-up. I guess 1982 was just on the cusp of these superstar acts still recording with piano, organ, "organic"-sounding harmonies, etc. Also probably the conservatism reflects Lindsey being a good boy after Tusk.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 02:19 (two months ago) link
I don't find this album particularly traditional-sounding, especially given the much-vaunted experimentalism of Tusk is largely confined to a handful of tracks (that's not a criticism: a tune like "Over and Over" is not terribly experimental but is still absolutely gorgeous-sounding).
On Mirage the interplay of competing elements - both between various instruments and then between lead versus backing vocals - is incredibly intense, even as formally there is more of an investment in "classic" pop manoeuvres (e.g. the harmonies having a slight barbershop vibe at times).
This culminates on "Hold Me" which is like an intricately wrought musical box, but also elsewhere and more subtly, like on "Only Over You": the complex but unthreatening interweaving of distant sighing backing vocals, churning bass, whining or droning organ, rat a tat drum rolls and a twinkling King Sunny Ade guitar solo from another room (notice how this song immediately repeats the trick from "Gypsy" of fading out on what might have been a much longer solo).
And of course "Eyes of the World" is just nuts, the intro to the guitar solo where it's like a serrated knife cutting through the rest of the arrangement in order to take over the track feels like peak Buckingham to me.
A close listen reveals the importance of Mirage as a bridge between Tusk and Tango rather than as a retrenchment.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 02:41 (two months ago) link
My ears always fix on the gated/prominent reverb of this album. The eighties!
― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 03:53 (two months ago) link
Mirage sounds conservative only next to Tusk.
I've realized that Halfway there but for you just about never agree on music.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 10:33 (two months ago) link
* Halfway there but for you and I
― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro),
This album doesn't sound '80s. The ethos is still post-punk.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 10:35 (two months ago) link
just about never agree on music.
We like some of the same things, just different parts. That's one of the things I like to learn on this site.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 15:09 (two months ago) link