Tortoise: Classic or Dud

Post-rock was just fusion all along.

That I don't agree with. Unless you mean that all music is fusion, in which case, sure.

xp great post, pomenitul, and I think you are right in identifying the generational difference. I'm a little older than you, and sounds like I'm a little bit younger than eddhurt, but your experience mirrors mine. As I stated upthread, Tortoise was absolutely crucial to my checking out music that I might have otherwise taken years to find, and for that I am grateful. I also still think they're a great band, no qualifiers; I saw them three years ago on the Catastrophist tour and they were excellent

Ry Cooder is a bad-ass guitarist, and his later records, like Chavez Ravine, are great. Very humane efforts.

this thread is a complete clusterchinstroke

There is definitely a generational thing about Tortoise and the comment about reissues in the 90s is otm. Tortoise sounded alien and fascinating to me as a 19 yer old in 1995-96. They were transparent about their influences and that’s what led me to hearing Can, Reich, Morrisone,Lee Perry and electric Miles. Sure I might have heard all that in due course but Tortoise was my gateway and I’ve never held it against them.

I mentioned upthreas my thoughts about Jeff Parker joining the band midway through TNT. They became “less adventurous” but they also became less slavish to their influences. Standards is when they finally just started to sound like Tortoise.

If you told me this Joe Chambers track was a primary influence on TNT, I would not be at all surprised

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEWEC5lv_Co

i'll have to check that album out, i love New World from 1976. it even has semi-tortoise-y mallet percussion action on "chung king"

"chung dynasty" i mean, god wtf brimstead

now you've got me thinking about stan freberg

New Jeff Parker record is just insanely good, like nearly perfect.

I guess I'm intrigued, because I've never really liked his playing. Which album is the new one?

The New Breed, it's great

Wait, that's not the new one, is it? Is it Suite for Max Brown?

oops yeah brain fart that's the new one

There's a new Chicago Underground Quartet album out too.

right on the new one is brain fart got it

(sorry)

mini West Coast tour at the end of March

http://www.trts.com/

Link to buy new reissue is broken, link to their merch is broken. The 'marketing' behind this band is being run by idiots. Do they not want money for their merch and albums?

Whoa, calm down, it'll be okay.

fyi - you can also buy the reissue on bandcamp - https://tortoise.bandcamp.com/album/rhythms-resolutions-clusters

Seems like a totally fair comment to me tbqh. Bands should keep their websites up to date, especially when it concerns product.

yeah, it's definitely annoying, but "run by idiots" seemed a little much.

just wait until the better business bureau finds out about these broken links, they'll have a thing or two to say to these nincompoops

When I think of tortoise I can only think of how I have the vinyl of TNT and wonder if I can get money for it

They’re quietly gearing up to release new music, and this is part of that. (Tour and reissue, not links that briefly don’t work.)