US Politics, March 2018: Why do people leave the White House for good?

dems keep focusing on the hentai states at the expense of the cheerleader states

what's sfm?

― how's life, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:34 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I...also don't know. Do I want to?

The Mueller investigation definitely won't bring Trump down because polls show people don't care about it that much right now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/05/15/how-america-viewed-the-watergate-scandal-as-it-was-unfolding/

Also, climate change definitely won't happen because polls show people don't care about it much right now either.

Like I don't know how to break this to you my dude but 90% of "'working-class white' Northerners of no particular religious bent, starchy Main Street Republican WASPs, right-leaning catholics of various degrees of practice, modernity-trepidatious small-town followers, urbanity-trepidatious suburbanites, and the misogynistic 'alt-right'" are high-fiving each other over the idea of boning a porn actress.

― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:31 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Like I don't know how to break this to you my dude but I wasn't talking about "boning a porn actress" (that Trump supporters are all over twitter calling a "skank" and a "whore"), and many of the people referred to above are straight women.

i think there IS voter traction in national-enquirer-level corruption stuff, not necc. sleaze but actual corruption, payoffs etc

that said goole is wildly otm

xp yes no men ever call the women they desire and can't have "skanks" and "whores" that is definitely a thing that has never happened in history

Yeah Hilary would have picked Gorsuch. Appointed Sessions, Threaten Nuclear war,torn up Iran agreement, meet w Bolton etc

and if you think that Stormy Daniels will be the tipping point for the 53% of white women who voted for Trump with all that was known before the election I have some very, very bad news for you

Yes Dems should definitely not pursue or bring up the “secretly paying a porn star” thing he’s still trying to hide that’s bad politics.

wait, everyone is ironically speaking in the voice that they oppose

The truth is that if the President of the United States were to slip and tumble down the stairs of Air Force One, and his weird hair came undone, and he limped away and it was all shown on TV, his image would suffer, because that is embarrassing. Not because *everybody* doesn't slip and fall, but because he's the President of the United States. People's own sexual proclivities—or acceptance of those of others—have nothing at all to do with the advisability or ethics of shaming him for same.

This fucker and his ilk are impervious through a combination of good fortune and dirty deeds to a whole range of behavioral checks that the rest of us our not. This zero-sum idea that he shouldn't be picked off by any and every means necessary on some vague grounds of argumentative consistency is absurd. The house is on fire.

xp It should be pursued by Dems to the extent that it impacts violations of Federal campaign laws, not to the extent that Trump likes to be humiliated by his side pieces in the bedroom.

Also can we please stop conflating kink-shaming or whatever w/ silencing the women he exploits for his beauty pageants etc.?

There are many Trump supporters who are not 'evangelicals', real or fake, including but not limited to many 'working-class white' Northerners of no particular religious bent, starchy Main Street Republican WASPs, right-leaning catholics of various degrees of practice, modernity-trepidatious small-town followers, urbanity-trepidatious suburbanites, and the misogynistic 'alt-right'.

― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:26 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

coulda just said 'whites'

Nothing bad will come to Trump over Stormy Daniels. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t scream about it, but we shouldn’t expect any consequences. This goes for the Russia stuff too. He’s going to get away with all of it. As long as he is white and republican, he’s bulletproof.

if some day many decades hence i can bring myself to see a silver lining in trump's presidency it will be that he provided an example of white privilege so bone-simple even a white man could understand it

The story that KM posted above that started this later conversation -- which you apparently didn't read, Nerdstrom -- contains no new information but this, which gabbneb apparently feels is important and should be what Democrats focus on:

In many ways, having sex with a porn star is on-brand for Donald Trump. He spent decades playing up a reputation as a billionaire playboy. These stories seem to have stirred discord in Trump’s marriage. They’re hard to square with his current role as the darling of conservative evangelicals. But they play to the tough guy, dominant and hyper-masculine image he likes to portray. He’s boasted for years about his purported sexual prowess and the Access Hollywood tape and the subsequent string of accusations of various kinds of sexual misconduct confirmed his role as a sexual predator.

But Daniels apparently says something different. I’m told that in her 60 Minutes interview with Anderson Cooper Daniels suggests that Trump, how to say this, likes it when women aren’t nice to him, treat him in perhaps denigrating ways.

Do you agree that that's what Democrats should focus on? Is that going to win them the House in November?

McCain slams Trump's CIA pick: She was involved in “one of darkest chapters in American history" https://t.co/dGRe9NUvqz pic.twitter.com/1Nh3qc9PZp

— The Hill (@thehill) March 13, 2018

mavericky

Here's a one two

NEW: We got audio of Stormy Daniels talking about an affair with a wealthy celebrity that began in Nevada on a 2007 radio show. Details match up with her Trump lawsuit and multiple people at the interview say it was Trump. https://t.co/i6VfqACuHk

— andrew kaczynski🤔 (@KFILE) March 13, 2018

BUBBA THE LOVE SPONGE CLEM — who filmed Hulk Hogan sleeping with his wife in the tape published on Gawker and sued over by Charles Harder, who was paid by Trump supporter Peter Thiel and currently represents Melania Trump — accidentally got the scoop on Trump's affair with Stormy https://t.co/rOWFpxz779

— Gabrielle Bluestone (@g_bluestone) March 13, 2018

Yeah the Democrats are not going to base mid term races on kink shaming. This is like when people said “Democrats are ignoring healthcare and talking about Russia” but ignored that actual Dem politicians were talking about health care everyday.

xp Phil, no *one thing* is going to win the House in November. That's why politics is depressing and not sexy.

so this means McCain is voting for her, right?

oh of course

and if you think that Stormy Daniels will be the tipping point for the 53% of white women who voted for Trump with all that was known before the election I have some very, very bad news for you

you really only need like 1% of them to peel away though

"Very soon we’re going to Mars," the president boasts to troops. Then, as if at a campaign rally, takes a swipe at his former rival: " We wouldn't be going to Mars if my opponent won." pic.twitter.com/ip4YA3huLw

— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) March 13, 2018

also currently rambling about a hypothetical "space force" right now

Trump: “We should have a new force called the Space Force. It’s like the Army and the Navy, but for space, because we’re spending a lot of money on space.” pic.twitter.com/p7YVX6gecz

— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) March 13, 2018

thanks for clearing it up

like the Army and the Navy, but for space

Can that be the motto?

The belief that the 'majority' of the American public connects all but one element from the list (and not a 'national health plan' precisely but inchoately-expressed improvements to the existing regime) to the improvement of their 'material lives' is about the most desperate, time-wasting shit I can imagine.

― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:29 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you and nerdstorm ought get in on a podcast together, clueless moderates much less erudite than yall are raking it in

I have this strong feeling today that in the very near future

1) the AG is going to be fired

-and-

2) we're all gonna be reading presidential sexts

Buckle up!

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) March 13, 2018

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WASHINGTON — President Trump, fresh off replacing his secretary of state and C.I.A. director, is considering firing his secretary of veterans affairs and installing Energy Secretary Rick Perry in the post, according to two people close to the White House.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/us/politics/trump-perry-shulkin-veterans-affairs.html

i have to say, at least perry is probably more qualified to oversee VA than DOE. baby steps.

Hoos, goole said that Trump’s worse threats like you know...threatening nuclear war are “within the Democratic mainstream”. We can all just agree that that falls under the category of “getting carried away”. I guess we all still hungry for those dumb af “Decision 2016 Giant Meteor amirite lol” memes.

All sorts of fun in this one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/roger-stone-claimed-contact-with-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-in-2016-according-to-two-associates/2018/03/13/a263f842-2604-11e8-b79d-f3d931db7f68_story.html?utm_term=.f53f70110579

Well yes that...huh?

Mike Conaway, the R running the House Russia probe, acknowledged that Russians were trying to “hurt” Clinton in 2016.

Just asked him what’s the difference between hurting Clinton and helping Trump, and he said: “Glass half full, glass half empty; you can pitch that either way”

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) March 13, 2018

oh god i just realized this tool (trump) is smack in the middle of my commute ... hope he takes the chopper out of miramar

Well yes that...huh?

Ned whenever you do this sort of thing I can only hear it in the voice of TV's Frank

im calling Ozymandias

Every now and then it's interesting to just stop and marvel that this this is a universe where "bubba the love sponge" is a phrase that is at least tangentially relevant to presidential politics.

Yes, suggesting that something is appropriate for nobodies on the internet to talk shit about to other nobodies on the internet is the same as suggesting that it be the core of the Democratic Party message in the midterm and/or Presidential elections.

Ned whenever you do this sort of thing I can only hear it in the voice of TV's Frank

I consider that a perfect compliment.

Fun fun

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/13/pennsylvania-special-election-preview-tax-republicans-458276

Republicans backed away from their signature tax-cut law in the final days of a closely watched special House election in the Pittsburgh suburbs — even though it's the very accomplishment on which they had banked their midterm election hopes.

the trashy shock jock era

who got blended haircuts up in this

Telling.

I spoke to the former president of Trump’s casinos for clues to Trump’s impulsiveness on tariffs, North Korea and Tillerson. He said Trump acts this way when he’s under intense pressure https://t.co/njX35O7oFv pic.twitter.com/Bt6J42cy5C

— David Nakamura (@DavidNakamura) March 13, 2018

BUBBA THE LOVE SPONGE CLEM — who filmed Hulk Hogan sleeping with his wife in the tape published on Gawker and sued over by Charles Harder, who was paid by Trump supporter Peter Thiel and currently represents Melania Trump — accidentally got the scoop on Trump's affair with Stormy https://t.co/rOWFpxz779
— Gabrielle Bluestone (@g_bluestone) March 13, 2018

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:03 PM (two hours ago)

pretty cool (unintentionally?) bug/feature of ilxcode is that it automatically preserves deleted tweets.

polls close in about 10 minutes in Pennsylvania.

During a long and unfocused speech on Saturday night, Mr. Trump appeared aware of the personal stakes. “I hate to put this pressure on you, Rick,” he said. “They are all watching because I won this district, like by 22 points.”

just realized that trump will attribute any republican loss in any district he carried to a personal failure of the candidate (in this case, Saccone), no matter how often this happens and no matter what the candidate does

i wonder what pelosi actually wants to happen

maybe people leave the White House for evil

the best thing in the very little I've read about Stormy Daniels is that Yam wanted to know what the royalties for porn are like.

just think he could have become the president of Vivid Video